Posted on 04/17/2017 7:11:15 AM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: 'It will never happen again': United bars employees from taking passengers' seats in rule change meant to prevent repeat of Chicago flight fiasco
We issued an updated policy to make sure crews traveling on our aircraft are booked at least 60 minutes prior to departure,' a United spokeswoman wrote in an email to the Times on Sunday.
'This is one of our initial steps in a review of our policies.'
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Their union isn’t gonna like this.
Wait til an employee shows up late and expects to get on a full flight. Union hell will be raised.
It does.
But they all do, except maybe Southwest and JetBlue. United just got caught.
only took how many years for United to realize their problem? and not until this recent happening and facing lawsuit....
The captain has final say on who travels, and may have anyone removed for any reason - by necessary force if needed.
That includes evicting seated & paid passengers.
That also includes evicting staff not actually needed to make the journey.
A wise captain knows which takes priority.
So this means they will bump a passenger before he gets to get on the plane, no more offers, just - your off the flight
LOOK CREAMPUFFS ...
Sometimes there is an emergency to get qualified personnel to another location and the safety of all passengers, INCLUDING YOU .. is dependent on a professional pilot flying our planes.
Sorry, here's a comp pass for a vacay anywhere in the US ... now get off.
Is this dealing with a symptom rather than the cause?
You idiots running United just now figured out the customer reigns supreme?? The stockholders ought to fire every last one of you.
All you people who think the union is behind this why the hell would the Union care the Union employee will make more money
The union members will be getting paid while they’re sitting in the airport waiting for the flight to the other location
The whole point is to get the a crew member to the location to work. So it just mean the flight crew member needed to work will be delayed so that other flight will be delayed. Only people losing in this are the passengers
They will still take the passengers’ seats, just early enough so that people will not notice as much.
“Sometimes there is an emergency to get qualified personnel to another location and the safety of all passengers, INCLUDING YOU .. is dependent on a professional pilot flying our planes.”
So? Let paying customers fly and put staff on Delta.
Well here’s the other side: Why should buying an airline ticket be subject to any different terms than making any other purchase? If you buy a loaf of bread, no one has the right to take it away from you because they want a sammich more than you do.
The convoluted mess of airline regulations we now have is the result of government trying to anticipate and control for all kinds of scenarios, including the one where airlines need to fly “qualified personnel to another location”.
People generally get the kinds of laws we deserve. If enough people are outraged by United’s action and enough Congressmen are motivated to take advantage of this crisis, you can bet there will be new airline regulations forthcoming that will forbid airlines from doing exactly what you said.
Situations like this one that attract national attention elevate these regulations to the level of Congress and become the breeding ground for yet more regulation - or deregulation.
Bull$hit. The problem is their policy for the passenger who won’t accept being kicked off a plane even he has a valid ticket and boarding pass and is not causing trouble. The policy is “If he won’t get off, (and he’s White or Chinese) beat the $hit out of him and drag him out of the plane, breaking his teeth, glasses and face.”
This has to be changed to “If he won’t get off, offer more money. If he still won’t get off, find someone who will accept that much money. Offer enough, and you’ll find someone, but no use of physical force.”
The airport cops have no brains, no sense, nothing in their heads but “Beat the $hit out of the a$$hole.” It would be a good idea for them to find out if the person is really an a$$hole or not before whacking him.
The problem was not that they needed a seat for crew.
The problem is that United was unwilling to use the approach of offering enough money to get 4 people to voluntarily give up their seats, and instead involuntarily dragged a customer off his paid-for seat.
No.
That is considered “involuntarily denied boarding.” IDB compensation is made.
They will offer vouchers before IDBing people.
Your right.
He deserved to have the crap beat out of him.
Southwest Airlines Overbooking FAQ
Just for what it's worth, in light of your remark "But they all do, except maybe Southwest and JetBlue."
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