Posted on 12/28/2017 7:57:11 AM PST by Eddie01
The people of Alabama knew Roger Moore well.
How many times did he run for state-wide office? Something like 4 times, maybe more. It’s clear Rats were motivated for Jones. But GOP’ers were “ho-hum” for Moore, some were likely influenced by the accusations to stay home most were simply not excited enough to get off their duffs to stop a anti-2ns Amendment, abortion loving Hillary/Zero-bot!
Which I think is the real story and real problem!
I’ll believe it when Mr. Moore and his people provide evidence.
I think you are blaming the wrong folks. I don’t think Alabama voters care a whole lot about what the GOP Establishment thinks or says. That much was apparent by the fact that they nominated him in the first place, despite the Establishment opposition and even Trump’s.
Incidentally I agree that you should not accept allegations without support. But that’s for the voters to decide on Election Day. The voters have to determine what allegations are true and whether they are relevant. Some candidates are more susceptible to this kind of smear campaign than others. It’s the responsibility of the primary voters to pick a candidate who can beat it.
That is true.
He handled it terribly when he was interviewed by Hannity. Had he done better right then he could have ridden it out. He could also have campaigned harder. He didn’t even campaign the last weekend.
Had they kept their mouths shut, it would not be possible to blame them. I think Richard Shelby had a dramatic impact on the election. He told his own voters to stay home or "write in" a different name.
That much was apparent by the fact that they nominated him in the first place, despite the Establishment opposition and even Trump’s.
And he was polling 20 points higher in the polls before the accusations came out. It was the accusations that did him in, coupled with the back stab he got from his Republican "allies."
That would be fine were it not for those urging them to decide on the basis of allegations. Until such has been proven, you do not urge your own voters to believe such allegations. You stay out of it.
Some candidates are more susceptible to this kind of smear campaign than others.
There are a lot of people who just love the idea that a person who is very "Christian" in their public life is a hypocrite, and they dance with glee at the opportunity to encourage the belief that all people who publicly advocate Christianity are hypocrites. They want to find hypocrites because it buttresses their own moral relativity and moral failings.
They enthusiastically seize on the slightest of evidence to prove what they want to believe anyways. So yes, a candidate that publicly advocates for Christian ideas and beliefs is a lot more susceptible to this kind of smear campaign. It's what a lot of people want to believe anyway.
It’s the responsibility of the primary voters to pick a candidate who can beat it.
That's not at all reasonable or fair. There is no possible way for primary voters to know there was about to emerge a disgusting scandal involving their candidate. The people who did know were the Democrats who deliberately held back this smear campaign until it was impossible to prevent Moore from being the Candidate.
They did so tactically and with deliberate malice aforethought.
Our side was just stupid for falling for it.
Roy Moore was put into a no-win situation by Hannity. Roy Moore did in fact date teenagers when he was in his 30s, but the way the accusations were framed, admitting that he dated teenagers was tantamount to admitting the other accusation was also true; that he molested a 14 year old.
Hannity approached the interview by hammering on the dating of teenagers instead of hammering on whether or not he ever had contact with this particular girl. A 30 year old man dating teenagers might be regarded by a lot of people in different social settings as "icky", but it isn't where the questioning should have been focused. Unfortunately Hannity framed the premise exactly the way that Washington Post kook presented it; Dating Teenagers was bundled together with child molestation as a single package.
Moore should have simply admitted to dating teenagers, and strenuously denied having anything to do with that particular girl. (Leigh Corfman)
I think he didn't expect the line of inquiry he received.
He could also have campaigned harder. He didn’t even campaign the last weekend.
Campaigning harder wouldn't have helped him. Everyone knew who he was, knew what he believed, and continuing to show up at events would have only given troublemakers more time to heckle him and bring up the accusations.
What stopped the voters coming out for him was people like Shelby and the media attack weapon.
They did not keep their mouths shut but like I said I don’t think the Alabama voters care what they think or say anyway. Certainly they don’t give greater credence to what the GOP Establishment says than they do what the Dem establishment says. You need to get used to the idea that lots of people of different stripes are going to oppose the GOP candidate. But nominate someone who the majority of voters are going to vote for. If your candidate needs the support of the GOP Establishment to win, then he better be able to get it. Otherwise you’re wasting your efforts.
So sorry you went through such a rotten experience and grateful to hear it ended well. I’m so keen on ‘justice’ and get knotted up over this kind of garbage, voter fraud and illegals really need sunlight and mega attention.
Gay as hell.
The author.
Precincts do not vote at that rate. Your the first person to think I meant the demographic.
It’s hard to answer that one. There is literally no way “voter fraud” added over 20,000 votes to the democrats. And nobody is even SUGGESTING that there was a type of voter fraud that threw away republican votes, and we know that republicans had a pretty lousy turnout, especially compared to the democrats.
LIke 480,000 people voted in the republican RUNOFF, and only 650,000 people voted for the republican in the actual race. (1.3 times the turnout)
In contrast, In 2014, the Alabama secretary of state primary had 363,000 votes, and the republican got 733,000 votes in the general election (2 times the turnout)
Clearly, republicans failed to vote for Moore, and some probably voted democrat. A polygraph proving Moore was telling the truth could very well have kept 6,000 republicans from switching to the democrat, and another 12,000 from staying at home — and those small numbers would have given Moore the race.
Did the democrats bus in some votes? Who knows? Did they bus in 20,000 voters? at 60 people per bus, that would be 333 buses. Buses showing up at polling places full of out-of-state people would be something we’d have a picture of, as I’d expect the republicans, especially Moore himself, wouldn’t have neglected to put people as poll watchers.
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