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4-8-18 | Eagles Field

Posted on 04/08/2018 7:30:03 AM PDT by Eagles Field

It’s 1864, The South has won the Civil War. How does this change the pages of history?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: civilwar; history; slavery
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1 posted on 04/08/2018 7:30:03 AM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: Eagles Field

The country splits into two parts, neither of which can resist the aspiration of foreign powers. The South eventually becomes part of Mexico, and the North once again comes under control of Great Britain.


2 posted on 04/08/2018 7:32:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Eagles Field

Read some books written by Harry Turtledove. He has a whole series about alternate history based on that very subject.


3 posted on 04/08/2018 7:33:21 AM PDT by Fhios (Mr. Magoo, where are you?)
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To: Eagles Field

I doubt we would have been up to taking on the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo Axis.


4 posted on 04/08/2018 7:36:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'd say it's more likely that the U.S. would have ended up a lot like Canada today -- a weak (on a global scale), loosely unified country where much more power is vested in the provincial/state governments.

Ironically, in many respects Canada is probably much closer to what the Founders of this country envisioned than what the U.S. has become since the Civil War.

5 posted on 04/08/2018 7:37:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: Eagles Field

‘The Calamity of Appomattox’ by H.L. Mencken


6 posted on 04/08/2018 7:38:54 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Eagles Field

bmp


7 posted on 04/08/2018 7:41:44 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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Wouldn’t have had industrial then technological revolution. People generally want to avoid mindless, strenuous work such as fetching water from miles away or working in mosquito encrusted fields. When you have slaves to do these tasks there is no reason to innovate to minimize the energy and resources to complete tasks. If there are no slaves, people will first provide services to those willing to pay. Over time, they will innovate and create technologies that allow them to provide those services at the absolute minimum cost and use of resources.


8 posted on 04/08/2018 7:43:21 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: Alberta's Child

And Jimmah Carter says we didn’t really have to fight for our independence from England and points to Canada/Australia/New Zealand as proof. Yeah, right Jimmah - look at them now.


9 posted on 04/08/2018 7:44:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Alberta's Child

Bkmk


10 posted on 04/08/2018 7:44:44 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. Heb 13:2 Deplorable...Trump 45)
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To: Eagles Field

More apt and more plausible.

What if the North conceded defeat after First Bull Run.


11 posted on 04/08/2018 7:45:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Eagles Field

The aristocratic plantation society wouldn’t survive, and would probably collapse within a generation; after which the USA/CSA would reunite. The ascension of American as the leading industrial nation would probably be delayed.


12 posted on 04/08/2018 7:46:53 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Eagles Field

The only way that could have ever happened is if a gigantic asteroid had hit the northern seaboard. Result: calamity all around.


13 posted on 04/08/2018 7:47:50 AM PDT by rockrr
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To: Eagles Field

We lose the Revolutionary war.

Slavery ends in 1833 when the British Empire bans it...


14 posted on 04/08/2018 7:48:14 AM PDT by null and void ("We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?" ~ Joseph Stalin)
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To: SkyDancer

We would have repulsed an invasion from Mexico and Central America.


15 posted on 04/08/2018 7:48:54 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. Heb 13:2 Deplorable...Trump 45)
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To: eclecticEel

One thing to consider is that when Germany united in 1871, they would have had an eye for gaining influence in the Americas, would they have reached out to the CSA?


16 posted on 04/08/2018 7:50:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eagles Field

There was the 1961 novel by MacKinlay Kantor, “If the South Had Won the Civil War”.


17 posted on 04/08/2018 7:58:32 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Eagles Field

I’d lease jesse and keep him in the bushes. Being from the losing side, I think that Yankees couldn’t own slaves, but we could lease them from the winners.


18 posted on 04/08/2018 8:00:09 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: Eagles Field
There is a fake documentary, Confederate States of America that offers a very funny look at America in the 1990s where the South had won the Civil War. It was available on Netflix. Historic events were given a very satirical twist. For example on December 7, 1941 it was Confederate forces that bombed the Japanese fleet in Tokyo Bay.
19 posted on 04/08/2018 8:12:15 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Eagles Field

The north soon discovers warp technology and moves among the stars. The south discovers decaf coffee.


20 posted on 04/08/2018 8:16:23 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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