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History Proves that Americans can unite even when torn in two
NY Post ^ | April 7th, 2018 | Salena Zito

Posted on 04/20/2018 9:38:30 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden

APPOMATTOX, VA. — On April 9, 1865, Gen. Robert E. Lee strode onto the porch of a two-story brick home and stared out at a lawn filled with Union soldiers, his Confederate staff of two, and his horse Traveler.

Still wearing full military dress, Lee raised his gloved hands and punched his left fist into his right palm. The sound of leather meeting leather echoed in the unsteady silence.

Then, as Lee mounted Traveler, Major Gen. Ulysses S. Grant emerged from the house onto the porch.

Now facing each other, Grant raised his hat, as did Lee. It wasn’t a salute, but clearly an acknowledgment of the moment.

As Lee turned towards the dirt road and headed east towards his troops, the 198th Pennsylvania Infantry played “Auld Lang Syne.”

The Civil War was over.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: civilwar; zito
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This article is from earlier in the month, but as usual Salena Zito makes a great point about two America's today and how this isn't the first time and how Americans handled it back then. I like the following lines:

Grant introduced Lee to his staff, including Lt. Col. Ely Parker, a Seneca Indian, who later recalled their exchange.

“It’s good to see one real American here today,” Lee told him.

“General, we are all Americans today,” Parker replied.

1 posted on 04/20/2018 9:38:30 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Oh Good! Another Civil War thread!


2 posted on 04/20/2018 9:40:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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“Oh Good! Another Civil War thread!”


LOL

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3 posted on 04/20/2018 9:42:40 AM PDT by Mears
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"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people designed to make of their victory, there would have been no surrender at Appomattox."

Robert E. Lee

4 posted on 04/20/2018 9:45:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I wish people here would stop fighting about it. I must say, last week I was Antietam and for the first time, I actually wept standing in Bloody Lane. We need to come together about it. A terrible, cruel event!


5 posted on 04/20/2018 9:46:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: DiogenesLamp

If you read it and thought it was a Civil War thread, you missed the whole point of the article. The point of history is to study it and apply it to those of us living today. That’s exactly what this article does.

This isn’t the first time that our country was so divided, in fact it was far more divided during the Civil War which should seem obvious. Yet we came back together again and this article tries to examine that. We could apply those lessons today.


6 posted on 04/20/2018 9:47:00 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: miss marmelstein
I wish people here would stop fighting about it. I must say, last week I was Antietam and for the first time, I actually wept standing in Bloody Lane. We need to come together about it. A terrible, cruel event!

For most of my life, I never gave it a moment's thought. I was concerned about issues such as Abortion, Government hostility to Religion, the normalization of Homosexuality and other aberrant behaviors, and excessive Federal spending on entitlements.

About the mid 1990s, I started noticing most of the stuff causing us problems had roots in the 14th amendment. It was so badly written that the courts were able to "interpret" it to mean whatever they wanted, and so they did.

In the last few years, i've come to realize most of the problems we face today, are the unintended consequence of the civil war.

The War is still haunting us in terms of Policy and distortions of original intent.

7 posted on 04/20/2018 9:55:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

It took the Lives of 700,000 Soldiers to get to that moment.

With today’s Population, it would equate to ten times that amount of Deaths, about 7,000,000 Souls.

There can be no peace with People intent on taking away your God Given Freedoms using a corrupt Government full of despotic Judges and Politicians.

Either those People survive and continue their Evil ways, or they are eliminated. Only the second outcome would insure the result that the American People would come together.


8 posted on 04/20/2018 9:56:05 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Armed Society is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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They’re should be another civil war IMO! A free republic can not exist with commies and dictators. I say bring it on and get it over with.


9 posted on 04/20/2018 9:57:58 AM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
This isn’t the first time that our country was so divided, in fact it was far more divided during the Civil War which should seem obvious. Yet we came back together again and this article tries to examine that.

I'm not convinced we came back together again.


10 posted on 04/20/2018 9:58:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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They’re should be another civil war IMO! A free republic can not exist with commies and dictators. I say bring it on and get it over with.

I would urge caution. My observations are that future battle fields will employ a new weapon called "drone swarm" for which our side is ill prepared, but theirs is not.

Imagine a few ounces of explosives on every one of those, and someone guiding it into people hiding behind obstacles.

How are you going to fight that?

11 posted on 04/20/2018 10:03:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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If you are a Civil War buff, you do notice the problems that caused the war are still bubbling up from below. The tension between the state and the fed will, possibly, never be resolved. Or should it?


12 posted on 04/20/2018 10:03:14 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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If you are a Civil War buff, you do notice the problems that caused the war are still bubbling up from below. The tension between the state and the fed will, possibly, never be resolved. Or should it?

I do not know, but I am confident in saying that the Civil War is the event most responsible for giving us a central government that is far more powerful than our founders ever intended.

13 posted on 04/20/2018 10:05:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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That’s certainly what Gore Vidal thought. I agree.


14 posted on 04/20/2018 10:06:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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That’s certainly what Gore Vidal thought. I agree.

Now you give me pause. I never expected to find myself in agreement with Gore Vidal. :)

15 posted on 04/20/2018 10:09:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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He’s brilliant on the Revolution & the Civil War. He goes off the rails with 20th century history, by far.


16 posted on 04/20/2018 10:15:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We should have taken Canada from Great Britain.


17 posted on 04/20/2018 10:16:52 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

That was back before Democrats had a cottage industry tearing us apart again.


18 posted on 04/20/2018 10:17:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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From my screen name you can rest assure I’m not being a little Lincoln bitch. I would like t read more regarding that quote. I always assumed the if south was pissed at reconstruction and the carpet baggers. Feel free to PM it if you wish to avoid the large hord of big central gov/ bankers of the site that see nothing but slavers VS angels


19 posted on 04/20/2018 10:20:04 AM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"This isn’t the first time that our country was so divided, in fact it was far more divided during the Civil War which should seem obvious. Yet we came back together again and this article tries to examine that. We could apply those lessons today."

One unfortunate part of the lesson that is largely being missed is that Americans did finally come together but only after one side kicked the ever living $hit out of the other.

The divide in America today is between those that believe in limited government and individual liberty and the left which wants no less than authoritarian rule. The two are not compatible and history has proven without any question that when the left gains sufficient power they are violent and cannot be reasoned with in any civil manner whatsoever.

20 posted on 04/20/2018 10:21:26 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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