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The Battle for Kinmen Island
Youtube.com ^ | May 10 2017 | Asianometry

Posted on 07/18/2018 9:33:22 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha

The Chinese Civil War went very well for the Chinese Communist Party in 1949 and the Nationalists were on the run. After another devastating loss at the city of Xiamen, Chiang Kai-Shek and his Nationalist forces retreated to the island of Taiwan. But the People’s Liberation Army looked unstoppable and Taiwan’s fall seemed inevitable.

The Battle of Kinmen, also known as the Battle of Guningtou, ended those expectations. A combination of too much hubris and too little information conspired to inflict upon the Communist Party its most devastating defeat of the war and set the foundation for the split between China and Taiwan today.

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1 posted on 07/18/2018 9:33:22 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

“and set the foundation for the split between China and Taiwan today.”

Well yes and no.

Taiwan was part of Japan and not part of the Chinese Civil War.

But, because the Chinese occupied Taiwan post-War, it was a place they could retreat to.

Taiwanese got screwed over, having nothing to do with China or the Chinese Civil War.


2 posted on 07/18/2018 9:39:26 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ThinkingBuddha

Did you make this video?


3 posted on 07/18/2018 9:43:45 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

No, I did not make this video.


4 posted on 07/18/2018 9:50:00 AM PDT by ThinkingBuddha
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To: ThinkingBuddha

There is a YouTube channel called Simple History that is rather good.

Not perfect in all aspects but worth watching and an ad click.


5 posted on 07/18/2018 10:22:47 AM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: ifinnegan

Is Taiwan as culturally different from China as Okinawa is from Japan?

A coworker whose ancestry was Okinawan said to not ever refer to him as Japanese.

Anyway, I’ll have to learn more about this battle. I thought the ChiComs didn’t seriously mix it up with ROC/Taiwan until Quemoy & Matsu.


6 posted on 07/18/2018 10:27:31 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

“Is Taiwan as culturally different from China as Okinawa is from Japan?”

Yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_indigenous_peoples


7 posted on 07/18/2018 11:07:59 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ifinnegan
The indigenous population of Taiwan was not Chinese but the Chinese were in a majority when China had to give the island to Japan after the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-95. It went back to China in 1945.

Kinmen may be better known as Quemoy, at least to Americans who can remember the Nixon-Kennedy Presidential debates of 1960, when Quemoy and Matsu were among the topics mentioned.

8 posted on 07/18/2018 1:40:28 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: elcid1970

My dad served non the USS John McCain around Quemoy, and said that he heard the screams of hundreds of drowning men as his ship passed them at night, when the commies sank a troop transport ahead of their vessel.

They were ordered not to stop, and they didn’t.


9 posted on 07/19/2018 8:55:46 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Get off my lawn and GTFO of my country.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

It actually didn’t go back in 1945.

It was Japanese territory occupied by the Allies under China after Japan surrendered.

The Chinese government claimed it was retrocessed, but it wasn’t.

Relevant surrender treaties came years later, after the communist takeover of China, which did not “give Taiwan back”.


10 posted on 07/19/2018 3:46:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“The indigenous population of Taiwan was not Chinese but the Chinese were in a majority when China had to give the island to Japan after the Sino-Japanese War of 1894-95.”

Yes, two main Han groups, Minnan, southern Fujian, and Hakka.

The analogy for Taiwan is America. Chinese who moved to Taiwan were like Europeans who moved to America.


11 posted on 07/19/2018 3:50:11 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: elcid1970

Taiwan is culturally Chinese. Maybe more so than China after the communist culture wars.

It is distinct from China, as much as the US and Canada are distinct from the UK and Mexico is from Spain or Quebec from France etc...


12 posted on 07/19/2018 3:52:58 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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