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A top Cornell food researcher has had 13 studies retracted. That’s a lot.
Vox ^ | 20 Sept 2018 | Brian Resnick and Julia Belluz

Posted on 09/20/2018 7:15:00 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT

“JAMA said Cornell couldn’t “provide assurances regarding the scientific validity of the 6 studies” because they didn’t have access to Wansink’s original data.”

“Professor” Michael Mann has put the same sort of restrictions on access to his original data.


21 posted on 09/20/2018 10:29:51 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (I am a Putin bot. And I approve this message.)
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To: Theo

Evolution theory is a mans attempt to explain the science of Gods creation. It falls short but has some merit.


22 posted on 09/20/2018 10:40:47 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...Wansink was so highly cited and his body of work was so influential. Wansink also collected government grants, helped shape the marketing practices at food companies, and worked with the White House to influence food policy in this country.
By "worked with the White House" is meant, the Obamanation period White House..

23 posted on 09/20/2018 11:11:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I recall looking at their slickly packaged crap back in the 70’s. They spun off something called the Indo-China air Power study to combine lots of real data with lying spin to prove the US was committing genocide by air on the Norks. That Kahin was recruited by the commies and had his career boosted by them doesn’t surprise me a bit. There are a number like him at Cornell and Berkeley who flourished in the same way.


24 posted on 09/20/2018 11:36:09 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; piasa
The Cornell Hanoi for Lunch Bunch rears its treasonous head again. That trail goes right back to the Silvermaster Group Soviet spy ring, Amerasia and Owen Lattimore--the real Russia collusion the Clinton/Obama intelligence community wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole.

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Luce’s choice of publishers was significant. Following his resignation from IVS, Luce had spent 1968 at Cornell, which was his alma mater. There he worked at Cornell’s Center for International Studies as a research assistant with the Center’s Project on International Relations of East Asia, credited in the preface to his book. In this capacity he interacted with an antiwar network centered around Cornell’s Southeast Asia Program, directed by George McTurnan Kahin (usually referred to as George McT. Kahin). Kahin’s 1967 book The United States in Vietnam is cited on page 277 of Luce and Sommer’s book.

Kahin was a pivotal figure who stood at the nexus between the popular antiwar movement and its academic and political supporters. Before coming to Cornell in 1951, he had worked part-time as a journalist in Indonesia. There he asked Minister of Education Ali Sastroamidjojo to suggest a research assistant for him, and he was assigned Selo Soemardjan, secretary to Sultan Hamengku Buwono IX, who had been a leading figure in the Indonesian independence movement against the Dutch. Soemardjan introduced him to other political figures, most significantly President Sukarno. Kahin maintained his relationship with Sukarno until 1963 and invited Soemardjan to come study with him in the United States. Kahin’s academic attacks on Dutch colonialism led Dutch authorities to regard him as persona non grata and prompted the US State Department to withhold his passport from 1949 to 1954.

After returning to the US in 1949, Kahin became an instructor at Johns Hopkins University, where Asian studies specialist Owen Lattimore was Director of the Page School of International Relations. Lattimore’s FBI file includes an informant’s report on a private discussion Lattimore had about the Page School’s appointment of Kahin to research Indonesian nationalism. Lattimore mentioned that Kahin’s appointment was part of an effort to promote comparative work on nationalism in Asia, with Kahin to work on Indonesian nationalism, Chinese linguist John DeFrancis to work on Chinese nationalism, and an undesignated anthropologist or sociologist to be assigned to work on Mongolian nationalism (a field Lattimore later worked in).

Kahin and DeFrancis became research aides for Lattimore’s legal defense team after Lattimore was accused by Joseph McCarthy in 1950 of being “Moscow’s top spy” and “one of the principal architects of our Far Eastern policy”, allegations which remain controversial to this day even among anti-Communist historians. Two different Senate subcommittees reached conflicting conclusions about Lattimore, and subsequent research has not resolved the question of his precise relationship to Soviet intelligence. Declassified Soviet Venona cables do not directly settle this issue, implicating some of Lattimore’s associates but making no mention of Lattimore himself. US government documents pertinent to the case include over 8,000 pages of relevant FBI files and Senate testimony, which are still being digested by historians.

Without a lengthy digression into the Lattimore investigation, some significant known facts may be summarized briefly. The FBI had flagged Lattimore as a suspected Communist and potential security risk as early as May 1941, when he was being considered for a position as the Roosevelt administration’s political advisor to Chinese Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek. The Nationalists similarly opposed Lattimore’s appointment, but President Roosevelt forced him on Chiang, according to an FBI informant quoting Chiang’s wife. Lattimore had initially been recommended for the position by White House aide Lauchlin Currie (previously with the Treasury Department) and Treasury Department assistant Harry Dexter White, both later discovered to be members of the Silvermaster Group spy ring supervised by Jacob Golos and Elizabeth Bentley. At this time Currie was President Roosevelt’s personal representative in China and the head of the US economic mission to the Chinese Nationalist government. Lattimore received a desk in Currie’s office at Room 228 in the State Department Building, telling associates he could be reached there in a 1942 letter (contradicting his later Senate testimony that he never had a desk at the State Department). Meanwhile White and his staff at Treasury were blocking the delivery of US aid to the Nationalists which had been approved by Congress.

At the same time White was seconding Currie’s recommendation of Lattimore as a political advisor to the Nationalists, he also recommended that the Nationalists’ Ministry of Finance hire Communist spy Chi Ch’ao-ting, who like Lattimore was associated with the publication Amerasia. In June 1945 the FBI raided Amerasia, uncovering approximately a thousand stolen government documents, along with a spy ring linked to Soviet agent Joseph Bernstein which included Lattimore’s associates Philip Jaffe and T.A. Bisson. Follow-up investigation of Amerasia and other Soviet espionage activity eventually drew attention to Lattimore himself.

Several Communist Party informants and Soviet defectors told the FBI and Senate investigators that they had heard Lattimore was a Soviet agent. The FBI was apparently unable to substantiate this with direct surveillance evidence (at least judging by a declassified 1949 report, which is heavily censored in certain key sections), but did document regular contact between Lattimore and Communist front groups, party members, and agents. In addition to Currie, White, Jaffe, and Bisson, Soviet agents Lattimore had been in contact with during the 1930s and 1940s included Comintern agent Willi Munzenberg’s lieutenant Louis Gibarti, Agnes Smedley and Chen Han-seng of the Sorge spy ring, and Michael Greenberg of the Cambridge Five. All this does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt, by the standards that would apply in a court of law, that Lattimore was a spy rather than a fellow traveller or sympathizer, but it does nothing to exonerate him of reasonable suspicion in the court of history, either. At a minimum, he owed his position as a political advisor to a pair of key agents in the Soviet campaign to undermine the Chinese Nationalists, and his foreign policy statements were evidently viewed by these agents as conducive to the Soviets’ foreign policy goals in Asia.

In a similar way, Kahin’s foreign policy statements would prove useful to the North Vietnamese. While working for Lattimore’s defense, Kahin applied for a job at Cornell. There, using a strained analogy between the Indonesian nationalist movement and the Vietcong to portray the latter as “nationalists” rather than communists, he became an early supporter of the Vietnam antiwar movement. Joining the Teach-In movement in 1965, he quickly becoming one of the antiwar movement’s most prominent academic spokesmen. He agreed to debate Johnson administration representative McGeorge Bundy, which led to Bundy’s brother William attempting to co-opt him by inviting him to join the State Department’s East Asia Advisory Committee. Kahin accepted the invitation, but used the opportunity to network with government critics of Johnson’s Vietnam policy, including the leader of the Senate antiwar lobby, J. William Fulbright, as well as 1972 Democratic Presidential candidate George McGovern. In this way Kahin became a key contact between the antiwar movement and the Congressional antiwar lobby. Several of Kahin’s associates at Cornell would likewise become involved with the IRC’s efforts to influence Congress, including Luce, David G. Marr, and Gary Porter, who have collectively been referred to as the “Hanoi for Lunch Bunch”.

25 posted on 09/21/2018 1:22:00 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Thanks for the ping


26 posted on 09/21/2018 1:32:41 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Food, climate, second hand smoke, all the same bs results from the same bs methods.

Our lives have are being run by fraudsters in and out of government.

Is everything false?

27 posted on 09/21/2018 1:54:09 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Thank you for the insight into the person, Dr Wansink.

It may be human nature, for workers to push in a direction that the leader would appreciate.
Also, there can be nonverbal communication.

Success is a delightful narcotic. "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing"

Stopping an experiment when a p-value of .05 is achieved is an example of p-hacking. But there are other ways to do it — like collecting data on a large number of outcomes but only reporting the outcomes that achieve statistical significance. By running many analyses, you’re bound to find something significant just by chance alone.

28 posted on 09/21/2018 6:03:01 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: Reverend Wright
“Professor” Michael Mann has put the same sort of restrictions on access to his original data.

Item number two on the three-point list stop p-hacking:

Open data sharing: Increasingly, scientists are calling on their colleagues to make all the data from their experiments available for anyone to scrutinize (there are exceptions, of course, for particularly sensitive information). This ensures that shoddy research that makes it through peer review can still be double-checked.

29 posted on 09/21/2018 6:10:19 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: SunkenCiv

(Brian Wansink ) was appointed by the White House to be the USDA’s Center for Nutrition Policy & Promotion Executive Director in charge of the Dietary Guidelines for 2010 and the Food Guide Pyramid (MyPyramid.gov).

https://cifs.cornell.edu/people/brian-wansink/

Is that an inside or outside position?

Part-time offsite, large check?


30 posted on 09/21/2018 6:15:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: metesky

Second hand smoke!

Looking at the regs on that one is like sticking an endoscope down Alice’s favorite rabbit hole.

A nutball attorney(fake engineer) wormed into ASHRAE (American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers)and browbeat the committee into massive air change numbers to allow smoking.
Therefore smoking very seldom is allowed indoors, the building costs are huge.


31 posted on 09/21/2018 6:24:24 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Usually, those are honorary positions.

Dr. Wansink is a libertarian, is that is helpful.

32 posted on 09/21/2018 7:30:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: metesky
“Is everything false?”

Most of the biggies are false:

- Cholesterol is bad for you (your body needs or makes 1.0-1.5 grams a day if your food doesn’t provide it)
- Saturated fat is bad (most other countries have removed this from their diet guidance due to newer findings)
- Sodium is bad for you (death rate curve shows mortality is higher below 3,000 mg and above 5,000 mg a day)

How can health studies that WE ALL HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED TO FOLLOW FOR LIFE all be completely wrong? Because of laziness or ill-intent.

So my follow up question is this: How can so many later studies “prove” the same wrong?

It is these “new” studies that I most question.

You can’t separate the author from the work, because the author always has an unhealthy ownership issue lurking in the background, which stems from being “human.” That is why transparency is so vital to everyone else EXCEPT the author.

33 posted on 09/21/2018 7:42:56 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Leaning Right

34 posted on 09/21/2018 8:20:00 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: CJ Wolf

Nah. Evolution is antithetical to the biblical narrative. Cycles of death producing humanity ... is a satanic 180 degree difference from what Scripture describes: God creating life, and then death only coming later, as a result of sin.

There is strong scientific evidence for creation, over evolution. Creation is the more scientific explanation of how “all this” came about. Science, something the Creator conceived, supports creation.


35 posted on 09/21/2018 8:23:34 AM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Huh.

I read the article and came away with the feelz that it’s more of an attack by the usual SJWs (buzzfeed, etc) and that the studies under attack are rather common sense supported.

Now I’m wondering what it was he said that offended a blue-haired ring-nose and started the attack.


36 posted on 09/21/2018 11:09:53 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Fungi

Evolution does not address origins.


37 posted on 09/22/2018 5:56:09 AM PDT by bwest
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To: catnipman

Evolution does not address the origin of life. You knew that, right?


38 posted on 09/22/2018 11:28:10 AM PDT by bwest
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To: Theo

Actually, Scripture is silent on evolution.


39 posted on 09/22/2018 11:28:56 AM PDT by bwest
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To: Theo

“and in part because Scripture completely rejects it”

That’s the main reason why many scientist are reluctant to retract it.
Not because they believe the creation theory is correct either.
Although, there are secular scientist who claim Darwin theory was wrong.


40 posted on 09/22/2018 11:41:45 AM PDT by Leep
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