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Man sues parents over trashed porn collection (allegedly worth $29,000)
Fox News 17 ^ | 04/12/2019 | Michael Martin

Posted on 04/14/2019 7:27:14 AM PDT by Drew68

GRAND HAVEN, Mich. — A man now living in Indiana is suing his parents after he says they destroyed his valuable porn collection.

FOX 17 is choosing to identify the plaintiff in this story as "Charlie," as this is a civil case without any associated criminal charges.

The case dates back to October 2016 when, according to a lawsuit filed this week, Charlie moved into his parents' home in Grand Haven after going through a divorce from his wife. Charlie apparently stayed for 10 months in their home, doing housework in lieu of paying rent. He was asked to leave after police had to be called to the house in August of 2017 for a domestic situation.

His parents allegedly traveled in November 2017 to his new place in Indiana to drop off possessions he had left at their home.

Allegedly missing from the items they brought: Charlie's massive pornography collection.

Charlie says his parents told him that they destroyed the entire collection. A collection that consisted of over 12 moving boxes full of movies.

...snip...

His father, according to the lawsuit, responded, "Believe it or not, one reason for why I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional heath. I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine. Someday, I hope you will understand.”

Charlie's father said in one email that his son was allegedly kicked out of high school and college for selling porn to other students. Saying in the documents, "I also warned you at that time if I ever found pornography in my house again, I would destroy it."


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: grandhaven; indiana; michigan; porn; pornography
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To: SMGFan
tell it to the guys who had his parents give away their coin collection .. or baseball card collection.. or comic book collection when they were in the military.

If they warned him first, that's one thing. If they didn't, that's pretty messed up.

41 posted on 04/14/2019 8:51:22 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady ( Political correctness forbids discussing any negative outcomes of Left-wing ideology. -PMcL)
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To: Nifster

I was at an auction once when a “Lot” of porn prints from around 1900 came up. They were all original and with the “negatives”. About 500 pieces. Went for $75,500 in the late 80’s. Biggest money all day. I was shocked.


42 posted on 04/14/2019 8:52:54 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (BTT)
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To: Larry Lucido
Sooooo....how much did he tell the divorce judge the magazines were worth? "Oh, those? $5, $10 tops!"

Oh, that is a very good point.

43 posted on 04/14/2019 8:53:54 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady ( Political correctness forbids discussing any negative outcomes of Left-wing ideology. -PMcL)
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To: Larry Lucido

He can’t even use the bathroom in South America.


44 posted on 04/14/2019 8:56:25 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: IronJack
I suspect the court will decide in favor of the parents

Highly doubtful.

The landlords destroyed $29K worth of their tenant's personal property without his knowledge or consent. Their aversion to the character of his belongings is a moot point. They had no right to do what they did.

The court is going to find for the tenant.

45 posted on 04/14/2019 8:57:46 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: IronJack

Any moral context aside, I suspect the judge will ask several questions. The first of these was he staying at their residence with a written agreement, and did that agreement, oral or written, specify labor instead of payment for his tenancy?

Since he was married, the assumption was that he was legally an adult, and no longer under his parent’s supervision.

That he was in possession of something which was forbidden by his parents, their legal action was to kick him out, not to destroy it. Legally it doesn’t matter what it is. So by destroying his property, whatever it is, they are open to liability for its value.


46 posted on 04/14/2019 9:06:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Desperate swarm sewage drains for water..." Venezuelans or D.C. Swamp denizens?)
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To: Bonemaker

Ashamedly I remember that name.


47 posted on 04/14/2019 9:08:03 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Windflier
The court is going to find for the tenant.

And at that point I hope his name is made public and the whole country knows what rotten loser this guy is.

Not that people have shame anymore.

48 posted on 04/14/2019 9:16:26 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

“...and if your entire porn collection were sold today, it could fetch a price of up to $30,000!”

“Wow!!”

“...but, sadly, most of this is available online, making your collection worth at most $29.00.”

49 posted on 04/14/2019 9:23:27 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Windflier; Excellence

Especially not in a BLUE state. Tenants have all the rights in BLUE STATES so he’ll probably win.


50 posted on 04/14/2019 9:24:10 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mo"tther's actual parenting of children)
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To: Windflier
Their aversion to the character of his belongings is a moot point. They had no right to do what they did.

It is the germane point, if they can establish that his tenancy was predicated on his accepting their terms, including a prohibition on pornography. HE was the one in violation, since he had tacitly (or explicitly) agreed that the parents would not accept porn in their house.

The parents have a pretty strong case, depending on what they can prove about any prior agreements on the terms of his tenancy.

51 posted on 04/14/2019 9:49:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Yaelle

LOL funny because it’s true


52 posted on 04/14/2019 9:50:23 AM PDT by xp38
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I’m sure that’s the argument the plaintiff will use. The countervailing argument is that, as an adult, he entered into an agreement to occupy the dwelling under certain restrictions, and that he failed to live up to those obligations. If the legal remedy included in that agreement was the right to destroy the offending material, then he has virtually no leg to stand on. But proving that could be difficult unless there is a written rental agreement, which I doubt.


53 posted on 04/14/2019 9:52:59 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: SMGFan

My stepmother threw out a comics collection that, if I’d held onto it, would probably be worth a couple million today.


54 posted on 04/14/2019 9:56:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: SMGFan
tell it to the guys who had his parents give away their coin collection .. or baseball card collection.. or comic book collection when they were in the military.

Much of my early record collection was obtained by visiting flea markets and yard sales. It was typical for parents to put the LPs in milk crates and sell them for like a buck a piece. Often they had no idea of the true value of them. Got some really vintage stuff at the expense of those poor kids!

Speaking for myself, when I went to the military, I was never to see my baseball card and MAD magazine collections again!

55 posted on 04/14/2019 10:02:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: IronJack

MY house——MY rules.


56 posted on 04/14/2019 10:05:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: IronJack

Wait until the creep gets a look at his parents new will.


57 posted on 04/14/2019 10:13:41 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Drew68
Best reply from the source:

“This young man needs to get a grip. Wait, that’s probably how this all started”

58 posted on 04/14/2019 10:26:35 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: SMGFan
tell it to the guys who had his parents give away their coin collection..or baseball card collection..or comic book collection when they were in the military..

Our family was returning to CONUS from Japan in 1963 and we had weight limits. I left a massive marble and precious stone collection and a baseball card collection that today would be worth thousands of dollars considering all of the baseball icon cards that I had in the collection. Only what if....

59 posted on 04/14/2019 10:36:01 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Larry Lucido; SaveFerris
But if you have moths, you need to get rid of it!


60 posted on 04/14/2019 10:50:45 AM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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