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How Big Printer Is Trying to Crush the Counterfeit Ink Trade [HP-Epson-Canon]
onezero.medium.com ^ | 04-25-2019 | Lance Ulanoff

Posted on 05/17/2019 9:09:03 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 05/17/2019 9:09:03 AM PDT by Red Badger
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I had an HP inkhet printer that I ended up throwing in the garbage because it kept saying I had non-HP ink and would not operate. I never bought any non-HP ink unless it was counterfeit and I did not know it. I always get my name brand inks at Office Depot or Fry's. I read online that a lot of people had trouble with HP printers giving a false reading on the ink type. I think the ink sensor was too aggressive. I am now using Canon printers with Canon ink.

At work, we all have HP laser printers with non-HP cartridges that work just fine.

2 posted on 05/17/2019 9:14:38 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: Red Badger

Now I know why the ink cartridges from wallymarts crap out three days after installation...


3 posted on 05/17/2019 9:16:54 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Red Badger

The article does not make the distinction between a COUNTERFEIT (a non-HP/Epson/Lexmark) and a refill or knock-off. The first instance is a violation of law. The second is a decision that many of us make to buy products that are clearly marked as being compatible or refills, but NOT the official product.

My HP LaserJet CP1518ni cost me $199 new, a great price. It would cost me more to buy it a new set of four (CMYK) cartridges. The knock-offs are $20 each, and are good enough for my use. Once in a while you get one that spills and makes a mess inside the printer. It is STILL worth it even accounting for that.


4 posted on 05/17/2019 9:17:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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A friend once told me that HP was busted for under filling their cartridges. Is that true?


5 posted on 05/17/2019 9:20:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (uizzzp)
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Keeping prices up and competition down
for the ChiCom government to release their own knock-offs.


6 posted on 05/17/2019 9:22:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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A friend once told me that HP was busted for under filling their cartridges. Is that true?

It's my theory as to why Carly Fiorina can't get elected dog catcher.


7 posted on 05/17/2019 9:23:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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If the printer companies, e.g., HP, don’t play fair, why should we?

When I managed an office, our vendor was selling HP cartridges for an excellent price, so I stocked up. A couple months later I installed one, and it wouldn’t print because it had passed its expiration date. I checked the wrapper and sure enough, there was an expiration date. The cartridge connected with the time/date on the PC, and it simply would not print. Boy, was I ticked off!

Finally, I changed the time and date in the PC before installing, and it worked right away with no problem. I reset the correct time and date it was fine. There are a lot of reasons to hate HP, and that’s mine.


8 posted on 05/17/2019 9:23:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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I have given up on inkjets altogether. I have had Lexmarks, Canons, Epson, and several HPs. All were useful for about a year, One lasted 14 months. One 11 months. The others right at a year. I do not put that much paper through them for the most part, except for one of the Lexmarks. It got used as much as three of the others. It lasted 54 weeks than just stopped working. I have wondered if they are programmed for a year’s use but each has failed in a different way except that the three HPs all just one day stopped picking up the paper. I have also a wide dot matrix printer I have had since 1993 that gets s lot of use and just keeps on keeping on. I have for regular use now a Brother laser printer. I have not had it long but My son’s Brother has been running perfectly for 4 years now.


9 posted on 05/17/2019 9:27:04 AM PDT by arthurus (jkl)
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I have been using Brother multi-function machines for years. I always buy non-OEM cartridges off of Ebay for a small fraction of the OEM price and have never had any issues.


10 posted on 05/17/2019 9:32:00 AM PDT by KevinB (If I'm ever arrested, I'm switching parties.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
My HP LaserJet CP1518ni cost me $199 new, a great price. It would cost me more to buy it a new set of four (CMYK) cartridges.

Shades of Polaroid. FWIW, story at the time was that Polaroid would have given the cameras away free just so they could sell the film but the gov't. said, "NO!"

11 posted on 05/17/2019 9:33:51 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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Bingo.... Carly Fiorina
   Never buy HP


12 posted on 05/17/2019 9:36:47 AM PDT by ptsal
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Two Brother laser MFP machines at home.

Excellent service and durable.


13 posted on 05/17/2019 9:39:21 AM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as interchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It's my theory as to why Carly Fiorina can't get elected dog catcher.

Her stint at Lucent wasn't a resumè enhancer either....except to the GOP.

14 posted on 05/17/2019 9:41:44 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: MayflowerMadam

We’d replaced a cartridge in a Brother fax machine a while ago (yes we still use faxes,) and kept getting error messages.

We called customer support, and got accused of using a non-Brother cartridge, (we weren’t) and back and forth for 20 minutes while we told them the model of the cartridge, the serial number, the serial number on the cartridge, and the data on the OEM holographic seal, where we bought it, etc.

They finally agreed we had an OEM cartridge, and told us three numbers to punch into the control panel to let the machine accept the cartridge.

I can’t stand the idea that an honest customer gets treated like a criminal by these crooks.


15 posted on 05/17/2019 9:47:39 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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I’d rather pay fedex/kinko’s $.07 per page than deal with this garbage.

(Mind you, I use paper as rarely as possible, not to be green, but just because it’s a hassle. That and because why spend $60 on cartridges that will go bad before I finish them vs. $2 at Kinko’s...?)


16 posted on 05/17/2019 10:00:27 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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I am so glad computers have given us a paperless world /s


17 posted on 05/17/2019 10:03:25 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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There wouldn’t be a market for counterfeit printer inks if the companies that manufacture the cartridges would cut their prices.

H.P.’s inkjet cartridges are not cheap and you can go through them very quickly.

It’s time for H.P. And the other printer companies to become proactive and cut their prices.Maybe even supply ink refill kits so there would be less wasted plastic in the form of cartridges.


18 posted on 05/17/2019 10:13:57 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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What’s this “ink” stuff?
Is that related to sealing wax?


19 posted on 05/17/2019 10:21:13 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Still using a dot matrix, eh?........................


20 posted on 05/17/2019 10:26:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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