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Why did socialism fail in the USSR?
Russia Beyond the Headlines ^ | June 18, 2019 | Georgy Manaev

Posted on 06/24/2019 1:58:15 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

At the dawn of the USSR, hopes of the imminent global rule of communism soared high among leftists of the world. But in a few decades, it became clear that the socialistic ideals of Lenin had failed. How did this come to happen?

“It is important to distinguish socialism from communism,” says Elena Malysheva, dean at the Division of Archival Studies at the Institute for History and Archives. “While socialism was the formal type of state administration of the USSR, communism was the ruling ideology. The project of the socialist state was initially utopian and populistic.”

“The Soviet project contained elements of what we now call ‘a social state’: social mobility, civil society institutes, social support, free health services, etc. But, because of the utopian nature of the project, this all couldn’t be implemented in full,” says Elena Malysheva. “Non-separation of powers, self-administration of the people – all this demands high social responsibilities that Soviet society didn’t have.”

“The Party apparatus and the state apparatus had merged on all levels: executive, administrative and communicative level,” Malysheva says. “In case of any crisis in either one of them – the other one would go into decline, too. So, when democracy started to develop in the late 1980s, the Party couldn’t hold the power. Although the Communist ideology in itself had the capacity for survival, the merging with the state apparatus doomed Communism.”

The Chernobyl catastrophe showed that the executive branch was rotten to the core. After Mikhail Gorbachev started social and political reforms, the unstable equilibrium of the Party and the State fell apart. After the introduction of real elections, the peoples of the Soviet republics showed a strong inclination for sovereignty and the opportunity to make their own decisions...

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As the upcoming Democrat primary debates in the U.S. ensue, this is a more important question than ever-- as Bernie Sanders (who spent his honeymoon in the USSR) and other 'Democratic' Socialists script their excuses for the Soviet Union's ultimate demise.
1 posted on 06/24/2019 1:58:15 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

And also note above the sympathy the Soviet experiment continues to get from Russian elites!


2 posted on 06/24/2019 2:00:14 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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Apologists for communism and socialism, often say that it was just never implemented properly.

So then, communist leaders such as Stalin, Chairman Mao, Lenin, Castro, just weren’t good enough communists. They didn’t properly understand and implement the theories of Marx and Engels. That’s what we are led to believe.


3 posted on 06/24/2019 2:02:14 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Because it’s socialism. That’s why. It fails and destroys the human spirit everywhere it is tried.


4 posted on 06/24/2019 2:05:23 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Bump


5 posted on 06/24/2019 2:05:32 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Ran out of other peoples money ,well they did that in their first 6 months ,LOL


6 posted on 06/24/2019 2:07:18 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It failed because the soviets didn’t implement the “right” kind of socialism. Same reason that so many junkies fail to implement the “right” way to ingest meth.


7 posted on 06/24/2019 2:07:20 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (“Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts.”)
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Why did socialism fail in ______________________.

Socialism is a corrupt form of tyranny that breeds more corruption by design.................


8 posted on 06/24/2019 2:08:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Because all the haves had and those that hadn’t didn’t.


9 posted on 06/24/2019 2:12:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It turns out; power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Walter Lipmann wrote “Public Opinion,” which was published in 1922. In it he gives an excellent presentation on Lennon and how Lennon violated his own theory. Communism was supposed to be the natural outgrowth of capitalism. If that was so, then Lennon should have been implementing a capitalist system which would then lead to pure communism. Instead, he established a dictatorship. Then, to ensure his version of communism survived as he reimagined it, he had the Mensheviks executed before he died. The Mensheviks wanted the workers to run everything but Lennon decided to run everything from a central bureaucracy.

Here is a free download link.

https://archive.org/details/public_opinion_1312_librivox


10 posted on 06/24/2019 2:12:37 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Why did socialism fail in the USSR?

Not enough blogs.

Had blogs been allowed, everyone would have prospered of hunger and stupidity.

11 posted on 06/24/2019 2:13:00 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They always fail to take into consideration Human behavior. They believe that all humans will act alike in any given set of circumstances. They don’t and will never do so.........................


12 posted on 06/24/2019 2:13:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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"“It is important to distinguish socialism from communism,” says Elena Malysheva, dean at the Division of Archival Studies at the Institute for History and Archives. “While socialism was the formal type of state administration of the USSR, communism was the ruling ideology. The project of the socialist state was initially utopian and populistic.”"

Total bull**it. Marx was a hateful, spiteful, resentful POS with daddy issues. What the idiots who embrace socialism need to understand (including those Jews who identify with and have pride in Marx as a Jew, and erroneously think that the Soviets represented salvation from the Fascists) is that freedom and self-determininism are sacred, and that there can never be a 'utopia' when individuals can't be self-defining individuals. In some very real ways, it was Marx who fueled WWII.

13 posted on 06/24/2019 2:16:43 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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I seem to recall something about “the state withering away” as communist citizens happily work for the common good in a communist society.

Did Marx and Engels say anything about the need for secret police, political prisons, massive bureaucracy, or Soviet armies occupying countries to keep them communist? Didn’t think so.


14 posted on 06/24/2019 2:21:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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"Soviet republics showed a strong inclination for sovereignty and the opportunity to make their own decisions..."

Why-ever would anyone want that?

Doesn't everyone want all aspects of their lives to be totally controlled by corrupt politicians, who line their own pockets with with the peasants money, while looking down on them, and threatening them (peasants), that they better be happy about it, (livining in tyranny), or else?

15 posted on 06/24/2019 2:23:59 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Some pigs are more equal than others..............


16 posted on 06/24/2019 2:24:19 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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“It is important to distinguish socialism from communism,” says Elena Malysheva,

This isn't hard and is very easily explained:

The difference between Socialism and COmmunism, is the difference between Seduction and Raope, you still got screwed!
17 posted on 06/24/2019 2:28:32 PM PDT by eyeamok
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Communism's bad enough on it's own but the Soviets were barbaric in applying to themselves and tried to push it to the whole world - or just destroy the world in the process.

Just plain nuts!

18 posted on 06/24/2019 2:34:14 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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Marx’s economic theories were always nothing more than sweet sounding lies, designed to help take power. A deliberate fraud from its very beginning.

Marx was a ruthless politician first, and only came up with his new sales pitch/political platform after being expelled from his home country for supporting a failed coup. Just trying to sucker enough additional fools to get behind the next putsch.


19 posted on 06/24/2019 2:38:57 PM PDT by BeauBo
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The author apparently feels he’s making a point, but his piece is so incoherently written I missed it. Not interested in re-reading, thx....


20 posted on 06/24/2019 2:39:09 PM PDT by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime." - Donald J. Trump)
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