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Putin Says It’s ‘Cynical’ to Blame Stalin for World War II
The Moscow Times ^ | Oct 2019

Posted on 10/06/2019 3:09:30 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

Blaming Stalin for starting World War II is “the height of cynicism,” Russian President Vladimir Putin has said amid renewed discussion over the Soviet Union’s role in the conflict.

“To say that Stalin unleashed the war is the height of cynicism,” Putin said at an international conference in southern Russia on Thursday.

“It’s as if the Soviet Union attacked Germany at 4 a.m. on June 22 [1941] and not vice versa,” he told the Valdai Discussion Club.

Russia and former satellites disagree over Stalin’s role in 1939, when he clinched the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany that paved the way for the invasion of Poland and the war. The commemoration of Soviet victory over Nazi Germany is one of the most celebrated holidays in Russia.

Tensions came to a head last month when Russia’s Foreign Ministry defended the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, tweeting that “hundreds of thousands of lives were saved” because of it.

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: putin; stalin; wwii
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1 posted on 10/06/2019 3:09:30 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Is it cynical to blame Stalin for the Katyn Forest massacre?


2 posted on 10/06/2019 3:11:23 PM PDT by stevem
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Aside from the fact that Stalin’s pact with Hitler to partition Poland started the war . .


3 posted on 10/06/2019 3:13:49 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Weird.

The Germans started it. After Japan had started it in Asia.

Who would say otherwise?


4 posted on 10/06/2019 3:15:46 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: stevem

I recall reading an article in National Review, around 1970. In it William F. Buckley pointed out that Radio Free Europe was pushing the idea that Russia was not responsible for Katyn.

We had plenty of traitors from at least the 30s.


5 posted on 10/06/2019 3:17:16 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: ifinnegan

So the Soviet army didn’t also invade Poland in 1939?


6 posted on 10/06/2019 3:18:00 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: mrmeyer

Exactly.

Stalin wasn’t as crazy as Hitler but everybit as evil.


7 posted on 10/06/2019 3:20:51 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

8 posted on 10/06/2019 3:23:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: ifinnegan

War was already underway in Europe thanks to the Soviets

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War


9 posted on 10/06/2019 3:30:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Who’s blaming Stalin for WW II?


10 posted on 10/06/2019 3:32:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Stalin was certainly in the mix along with Hitler and Tojo.


11 posted on 10/06/2019 3:38:46 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Stalin was a cynical guy.


12 posted on 10/06/2019 3:44:57 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Listed in no particular order the three worst psychopathic murderers of the 20th Century were Stalin,Mao and Hitler.

Who is specifically responsible for what is basically irrelevant.

All three killed millions...*many* millions.

13 posted on 10/06/2019 3:48:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This just my opinion. I believe Stalin wanted to eventually take over the entire world. Hitler along with Mussolini wanted the World Island West of the Urals plus North Africa.

Tojo along with the Emperor wanted all of Asia occupied by Orientals plus most of the Pacific.

I don’t think the Germans or the Japanese wanted world conquest but probably did want to be the world’s power.


14 posted on 10/06/2019 3:50:31 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

Funny/Fun movie:

Death of Stalin
just the trailer, but you can find it anywhere
https://youtu.be/zohSdS5BRMs


15 posted on 10/06/2019 4:15:13 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Brilliant

My cat. And he’s not budging :)


16 posted on 10/06/2019 4:15:46 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Communist suck. Cant even start a war correctly. They, the communists, tried to get something for no effort. They paid a big price. After the war was over the communist killed even more just to make up for it.


17 posted on 10/06/2019 4:34:45 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
“hundreds of thousands of lives were saved” because of it.

That's no comfort to the millions killed in Stalin's purges.
18 posted on 10/06/2019 4:56:40 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Gay State Conservative

i drive my relatives nuts by claiming Hitler was a pretty good guy!!

1. Mao MURDERED 45MILLION of his own people
2. Stalin Murdered 33 Million of his own people
3. Hitler murdered about 12 million and Not all were Germans-
(jews and undesireables were shipped in to be killed)

4. big runner-up- Pol Pot- probably wiped out 40% of his owncountry men!! about 3.5 Million

THOSE OLD PROGRESSIVES- WERE pretty COOL!!

sarc


19 posted on 10/06/2019 5:10:56 PM PDT by mj1234
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To: mj1234

The Guinness book of world records claims Mao murdered 60 million.


20 posted on 10/06/2019 5:25:01 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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