Sometimes that spider just has to die.
Posted on 10/30/2019 12:11:07 PM PDT by Hojczyk
When they were finished, it looked as though the Greenwood Village, Colo., police had blasted rockets through the house.
Projectiles were still lodged in the walls. Glass and wooden paneling crumbled on the ground below the gaping holes, and inside, the family’s belongings and furniture appeared thrashed in a heap of insulation and drywall. Leo Lech, who rented the home to his son, thought it looked like al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden’s compound after the raid that killed him.
But now it was just a neighborhood crime scene, the suburban home where an armed Walmart shoplifting suspect randomly barricaded himself after fleeing the store on a June afternoon in 2015. For 19 hours, the suspect holed up in a bathroom as a SWAT team fired gas munition and 40-millimeter rounds through the windows, drove an armored vehicle through the doors, tossed flash-bang grenades inside and used explosives to blow out the walls.
The suspect was captured alive, but the home was utterly destroyed, eventually condemned to be demolished by the City of Greenwood Village.
The suspect, Robert Jonathan Seacat, had stolen a shirt and a couple of belts from a Walmart in neighboring Aurora, Colo., and then fled in a Lexus, according to a police affidavit.
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As Bob434 notes, this is the Washington Post’s coverage. They must still be feeling a little stung over the al-Baghdadi obituary headline otherwise they probably would have even left out the word “armed.”
The Post barely mentions that the man was caught with methamphetamine, heroin and pills and was suspected of selling drugs. He also had several weapons.
https://www.greenwoodvillage.com/DocumentCenter/View/13916/Affidavit-Seacat?bidId=
And a police officer was just incidentally at Walmart for another situation and Seacat first complied with him and then fled the scene. As he did, the officer attempted to tase him, and he nearly ran over the officer with his vehicle. As they were searching for him, a witness advised them that she’d seen him with a gun. And if the probable cause affidavit is to be taken at face value, he later fired a shot at an officer who was attempting to make sure he couldn’t use the homeowner’s vehicles in the garage. He also had a record for burglary. He was hardly a mere shoplifter.
One could try to say that the officer shouldn’t have tried to tase Seacat, and just let him go for the shoplifting, but unless it’s in the public record or the news why he decided to tase him, one can’t really know that. Seacat had meth, heroin and guns on him, and he may have been acting a bit like he was that sort of character.
I’m not saying the police were wrong in chasing Seacat; I’m saying the law is wrong in not socializing the incidental costs to individuals of our responders.
It appears that the home owner was the father of the perp...and the perp shot at police from inside the home.
Maybe you lack reading comprehension or do not know how to agree with someone, but that is what I was trying to say.
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Sometimes that spider just has to die.
Also, this:
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-denver-post/20160804/281573765075354
Seacat swallowed containers of the drugs during the standoff, which was said to impair his ability to rationally negotiate his surrender to police.
And he was no doubt highly motivated to avoid capture because as a repeat offender, he would be facing a long sentence. This article notes that’s why his case was going to go to trial rather than end with a plea bargain.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking also. Why would a penny Annie shop lifter common to shooting live rounds at the police? Need more info about his aggressive motivations.
Sure I get that there was reason to go after the perp.
But how was the homeowner protected and served? He was offered a token payment for inconvenience and sent to his insurance company. His life was completely disrupted.
I remember Operation MOVE. There was good political cover, as Mayor Wilson Goode was black. If Rizzo tried that the echo of the wailing would still be heard.
The WaPoop headline was posted here and that’s what I read.
Sins of the son visited upon the father. Sounds kinda Biblical doesn’t it?
Real simple:
Under our laws THE PARTY CAUSING INJURY OR DAMAGE must make restitution / compensate the injured party/ party that suffered loss.
Who caused damage?
Greenwood Village PD.
They did not compensate, but indeed had two judges state that they don’t have to because the damages came from the police activity. (Now when they use excessive force, they don’t need to be held responsible either, after all it’s during police activity. That’s how precedent is set.)
Lol!
Seriously, this was Sheriff Will Teasle, sending the National Guard after John Rambo for vagrancy.
In this article the village attorney says that the way it’s done is for the homeowner’s insurance to pay for the damage.
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-denver-post/20160804/281573765075354
Another news report says that courts have ruled both ways on the issue. I wonder why they don’t socialize the costs, but maybe the costs altogether would be too high.
Philadelphia moves, breaking out the Big Brain stuff.
I swear, it’s almost as if other swat teams grabbing their badguys without destroying buildings is a fantasy to these guys.
From everything I’ve read, the criminal and homeowner didn’t know each other; he just randomly ran to the house while trying to evade police. He apparently knew he’d be facing a long sentence for being a habitual offender, and this report says he was sentenced to 100 years:
https://patch.com/colorado/littleton/aurora-man-19-hour-police-standoff-gets-100-years-prison
How I would have handled the situation” Pull a tank of anhydrous ammonia up to the home. Break a window or drill a small hole anywhere in the home and open the valve. Bad guy would soon come out or die inside in extreme pain. No damage to house. It should be noted that anhydrous ammonia is flamable and explosive at certain concentration. Bad guy would be dead or outside before this level is achieved. If bad guy opens fire during the operation just let loose with full auto fire from M4s, many M4s. They make small holes easily repaired but on the human body not so.
“They did not compensate, “
Real simple. They compensated for non-insured losses.
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