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Vanity: Are we missing something in the democrat strategy?
http://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index ^ | 12/16/2019 | samtheman

Posted on 12/16/2019 5:51:15 AM PST by samtheman

Many conservatives -- in the media, on FR, in the general population -- believe that the democrats are hurting themselves with this serial impeachment hoax.

Certainly I believe that.

But this morning I had a scary thought.

What if we are wrong? What if the demons are playing their cards in the most effective way they can? What if they are a Hitler who did not make the mistake of invading Russia, but went for the mideast oil instead? What if they are a Hitler who didn't waste his Luftwaffe on an unwinnable air war with the RAF? What if they are a Hitler who did everything right?

What that means in terms of today:

Trump has delivered Peace and Prosperity. Early in his first term it was pretty obvious that he was putting the country on track for Peace and Prosperity.

How are the demons supposed to combat THAT?

What can they do, argue for a Green New Deal, a Medicare For All? Well, sure, they can do that, and they do that. But that's only for their base. They can't win elections with those ideas.

There are only two things they can do:

1. Massive voter fraud. 2. Get rid of Trump outside of the electoral process.

We all assume that #1 is a given, but also that by itself it's not enough, especially given the Peace and Prosperity Trump is delivering.

So how to you run against Peace and Prosperity?

You don't.

So what do you do?

EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING.

The democrats are Hitler husbanding the Luftwaffe and not wasting it in a futile war over the skies of Britain. The democrats are Hitler keeping up the fiction of an alliance with Stalin and instead sending a massive force into North Africa, taking the Suez Canal and from there all of mideast oil... and with the help of the Luftwaffe they didn't lose over Britain, making the Mediterranean a German lake.

The democrats are evil. Very, very evil. As evil or more evil than Hitler. (I know... #1 internet violation, but I don't care.)

But they are not stupid. They are not making Hitlerian mistakes.

They are doing the right thing to win their evil goals.

For evidence I ask you one simple question:

Whatever you believe Trump's real approval rating is right now... I know we can't cite the publicly available fake-poll numbers, but there is a real number out there... and whatever that real number is... don't you think his approval rating would be significantly higher, maybe MUCH MUCH higher, if the democrats only ran on the issues and nothing else?


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I know one counter to my Vanity Question is: but the impeachment hoax started well before the Peace and Prosperity became evident.

My suggested answer to that objection is this:

Maybe the serial impeachment hoax started out as kind of a stupid move but -- as Peace and Prosperity kicked in -- became the most effective weapon in their arsenal, and though it might have started out as a stupid move, its later development became a Good Move, maybe even a Great Move.

Also, I submit that it is very possible that at least some democrats had very early inklings that Trump was going to be very successful, that they believed and hated Trump's campaign promises, and that they crafted this evil plan with the partial advance understanding that this was THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT TRUMP.

1 posted on 12/16/2019 5:51:15 AM PST by samtheman
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My belief is that Wikileaks, Snowden, and bloggers did a lot of damage to Deep State and that the Dems and RINO’s are throwing hail Mary’s to try and get the genie back in the bottle and cover up their corruption.

Trump’s impeachment is a distraction from news of corruption. Whenever something unavoidably is getting released, the Democrats rattle the impeachment rattle to hide the noise.


2 posted on 12/16/2019 5:55:46 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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or this is just a feint to hide the massive voter fraud coming down the pike...


3 posted on 12/16/2019 5:56:26 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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I am pretty sure it is a cover for their massive cheating in 2020 that will make 2016 appear tame.


4 posted on 12/16/2019 5:56:38 AM PST by Ingtar (Bedbugs, thy name is Democrat.)
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First of all, the impeachment attempt began on January 20, 2017, the moment Trump took the oath of office. It's been a snowball rolling downhill, and Pelosi tried to stop it for a while, but couldn't hold it off any longer. There is no broad, brilliant strategy. Secondly, the whole effort is powered by blind hatred of Trump and his supporters. That makes reasonable and thoughtful planning impossible.

They really are driving themselves off a cliff, and they don't know how to stop it. I say we get out of their way, or maybe give them a little shove on the way down.

5 posted on 12/16/2019 5:56:59 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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My suspicion is their behavior is not motivated by strength but rather desperation.


6 posted on 12/16/2019 5:57:42 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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My suspicion is their behavior is not motivated by strength but rather desperation.

They are desperate, but they're also full of hate and rage. That hate is driving them to act completely irrationally, and they'll pay in November. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

7 posted on 12/16/2019 6:02:10 AM PST by Kharis13
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I am pretty sure it is a cover for their massive cheating in 2020 that will make 2016 appear tame.

Well, that’s not exactly the point I was trying to make... but it’s even SCARIER than the point I was trying to make.

I fear you are 100% correct.


8 posted on 12/16/2019 6:02:31 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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They demonstrated in 2016 and the years since they don’t have to worry about elections anymore.


9 posted on 12/16/2019 6:03:06 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Evil is cunning and manipulative, which does not necessarily equate to wisdom. Evil is opportunistic, much like coyotes and crows who take advantage of any opportunity or weakness. The Left is evil. Evil cannot help itself but to do the wrong thing, because there is no good in evil.


10 posted on 12/16/2019 6:04:09 AM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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I’ve had the same thoughts for the last couple weeks because I cannot figure out why the democrats are so hellbent on this when they should know there is no chance of the senate voting to remove.

So I did a thought experiment, what evidence could convince me that Trump did abuse his power by withholding aid to the Ukraine to force them to start an investigation into the son of his primary opponent in the 2020 election.

The only evidence that would convince me of this, and therefore support impeachment and removal, is an audio or video recording of Trump saying something along the lines of;” I’m withholding aid from the Ukraine until Zelensky starts an investigation on Hunter Biden to help me defeat his dad in the 2020 election.”

What do I think the chances are that he said anything like that? Less than 1%. (I won’t rule it out entirely because anything’s possible.). Without that kind of evidence the support for removal stays under 60% and with less than 60% approval there is no way they get a two thirds majority to vote for removal in the senate.


11 posted on 12/16/2019 6:04:39 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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Voter fraud works best in Democrat held areas and in LOCAL ELECTIONS!

Voter fraud on the national elections would would if the ELECTORAL VOTES are close, but will they be close in 2020?

Personally I don’t think so.

Voter fraud in California and New York would not change the results.


12 posted on 12/16/2019 6:05:30 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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BTW, in my tortured analogy to Hitler, I left out Hitler’s biggest mistake: Declaring War on the United States, without the slightest reason for doing so, in a fit of thoughtlessness and contempt.


13 posted on 12/16/2019 6:05:49 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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No. This is one of the GOP problems for the last 10 years: we think the DemoKKKrats are incredibly brilliant tacticians who have these marvelous strategies.

No. Botoxic stumbled into this impeachment-—even though it was her goal for two years-—probably briefly boosted by the big DemoKKKrat majority she got in 2018. She has NEVER figured out how to appease the whackadoodle left and still keep the red seats they won from flipping back.

Three months ago I said I didn’t think the Rs could take back the House. I am slowly changing my mind. I now thing it’s about 50/50 and that this impeachment is rapidly handing back to the Rs virtually every one of those seats-—EXCEPT . . .

They have to field good candidates. I’m seeing good ones in OK5, in Kean in NJ, in Burgess Owens in UT 4 and a couple of others. We need another 20 good ones to win back 18 seats.


14 posted on 12/16/2019 6:07:03 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: semaj

Well said.


15 posted on 12/16/2019 6:07:32 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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I predict an avalanche of negative “Blaisie Ford” type accusations after the House votes to impeach Trump.

They will come over the holidays with while the Senate is on recess.

The goal will be to transform the political landscape before the Senate meets again in January.

McConnell should extend the current session and do the acquittal fast.


16 posted on 12/16/2019 6:07:43 AM PST by 5by5 (ad)
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Perhaps they are going on and on with these distractions, so they can give themselves time to clean up and erase a lot of their personal corruptions?


17 posted on 12/16/2019 6:08:07 AM PST by abclily
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You are reading too much into it. They are surprised and they are being reactionary.


18 posted on 12/16/2019 6:09:06 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Too late for that.


19 posted on 12/16/2019 6:09:33 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: LS

Botoxic stumbled into this impeachment...

LOL!

That’s a truly great line.

But you mention the 2018 election.

Do you really think the dems would have won the 2018 election if their had been no ongoing “investigation” (as bogus as it turned out to be) against Trump?

Do you really think that the rats would have won in 2018 without the 2-year drumbeat of russia-russia-russia in the “media”?


20 posted on 12/16/2019 6:10:58 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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