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An Interview with Norman Podhoretz
Claremont Review of Books ^ | April 16, 2019 | Charles Kesler, Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 02/18/2020 12:23:34 PM PST by Pelham

CRB: Your own attitude towards Trump as a political figure has changed over time. How would you describe that evolution?

NP: Well, when he first appeared on the scene, I disliked him because he resembled one of the figures that I dislike most in American politics and with whom I had tangled, namely Pat Buchanan—I had tangled with him in print and I had accused him of anti-Semitism. And he came back at me, and I came back at him. And it was a real street fight. And I said to my wife: “This guy [Trump] is Buchanan without the anti-Semitism,” because he was a protectionist, a nativist, and an isolationist. And those were the three pillars of Pat Buchanan’s political philosophy.

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NP: ...So for a while I was supporting Marco Rubio and I was enthusiastic about him. As time went on, and I looked around me, however, I began to be bothered by the hatred that was building up against Trump from my soon to be new set of ex-friends. It really disgusted me. I just thought it had no objective correlative. You could think that he was unfit for office—I could understand that—but my ex-friends’ revulsion was always accompanied by attacks on the people who supported him. They called them dishonorable, or opportunists, or cowards—and this was done by people like Bret Stephens, Bill Kristol, and various others. And I took offense at that.

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CRB: ...So you began by looking at Trump as a kind of warmed over Pat Buchanan—

NP: Yeah, without the anti-Semitism.

CRB: Did he do anything as president or as a candidate that accelerated your reevaluation of him? Did a lightbulb go on at some point?

NP: Well it wasn’t a lightbulb, and it wasn’t the road to Damascus revelation. It was

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An Interview with Norman Podhoretz

1 posted on 02/18/2020 12:23:34 PM PST by Pelham
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I’ve read several of his books, and they are great.


2 posted on 02/18/2020 12:25:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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And I said to my wife: “This guy [Trump] is Buchanan without the anti-Semitism,”


LOL, Trump should have put that quote in a campaign ad! It’s a back-handed endorsement, as far as I’m concerned.


3 posted on 02/18/2020 12:30:40 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Pelham
Podhoretz is an awful preson

Norman Podhoretz, the last remaining ‘anti-anti Trump’ neoconservative

The former editor of Commentary says he has ‘no admiration’ for Trump, but deems him the ‘lesser evil’ compared to Clinton

Eric Cortellessa covers American politics for The Times of Israel.

President Bush presents Norman Podhoretz with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civil award, during a ceremony in the East Room of the White House, June 23, 2004 (Susan Walsh/AP)
President Bush presents Norman Podhoretz with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civil award, during a ceremony in the East Room of the White House, June 23, 2004 (Susan Walsh/AP)

4 posted on 02/18/2020 12:37:27 PM PST by JonPreston
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Thank you, Pelham. I enjoyed the interview.


5 posted on 02/18/2020 12:52:38 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Prayers for Rush)
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Norm posts on FR, doesn’t he?

“Trump, with all his vices, has the necessary virtues and strength to fight the fight that needs to be fought. And if he doesn’t win in 2020, I would despair of the future. [...] His virtues are the virtues of the street kids of Brooklyn. You don’t back away from a fight and you fight to win. That’s one of the things that the Americans who love him, love him for—that he’s willing to fight, not willing but eager to fight. And that’s the main virtue and all the rest stem from, as Klingenstein says, his love of America. I mean, Trump loves America. He thinks it’s great or could be made great again.”


6 posted on 02/18/2020 1:06:52 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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That was an exceptional article. It is a pleasure to read a conversation with a brilliant man who can express intelligent thoughts in a clear, concise, accessible way. There was also no hint of “spin” or twisting the truth to push a point. He speaks as a wise man.


7 posted on 02/18/2020 2:12:06 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana; nickcarraway; miss marmelstein; wardaddy

“That was an exceptional article. It is a pleasure to read a conversation with a brilliant man who can express intelligent thoughts in a clear, concise, accessible way.”

It occurs to me that in the, ahem, print era... before the daily diet of radio and cable TV pop-conservatism... that we used to routinely read articles of this caliber in the conservative press. Writing forces you to discipline your thoughts.

So while Rush and Hannity and their progeny in the electronic media have a role there’s not a whole lot left of the thought provoking essayists who once had me reading National Review cover to cover. The old guard largely died off and no one replaced them. A few are still around.

Joe Sobran. Erich von Kuenhelt-Leddihn. Stephen Tonsor. Russell Kirk. Mel Bradford. Sam Francis. Andrew Lytle. Paul Gottfried. Allan Carlson.


8 posted on 02/18/2020 2:38:03 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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Pat Buchanan is anti-Semitic???


9 posted on 02/18/2020 2:38:42 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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