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Coronavirus Live Thread. Post 2
2/24/2020

Posted on 02/24/2020 2:14:53 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Just think. Ten months till Christmas.

This is the continuation of the Thread.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: apocalypse; billionsinfected; chinavirus; coronabeer; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; everyonedies; fart; flu; globaldoom; hysteria; livethread; millionsdead; ohnoes; rumors; sarscov2; speculation
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To: Vermont Lt

I’ll be honest, I think there’s a good chance I’ve already had the Coronavirus. Our office has been sick for months, literally, someone has been in the office working with the flew since before the start of Feb. I’ve felt it come on and beat it back, a lot of our folks fly. I think there is a chance that Coronavirus is already around more than we think.


341 posted on 02/25/2020 6:03:33 AM PST by GulfMan
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To: LilFarmer
Croatia - First Case of Coronavirus reported febr 25, 2020 Prime Minister Andrej Plenkovic confirmed that the first case of coronavirus infection was recorded in Croatia. This is a younger man who has been in Milan, has milder symptoms and has been hospitalized at the Fran Mihaljević Hospital in Zagreb https://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/cekaju-se-rezultati-testova-na-koronavirus-za-pet-osoba-u-hrvatskoj---595197.html
342 posted on 02/25/2020 6:03:33 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: richardskeet

“When Caterpillar makes a tractor, how many of its components are sourced directly from China?”

There was an article about a week ago regarding a British firm making heavy equipment. They said they would be shutdown in 2 weeks (from then) if Chinese parts don’t start coming in. They said they get ‘hundreds’, including electronics and forgings.

Things will soon get very interesting...


343 posted on 02/25/2020 6:06:26 AM PST by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: LilFarmer

Singapore

Links established between Church Clusters and Wuhan Travellers

25th Feb 2020

The Ministry of Health (MOH) has confirmed that the locally transmitted COVID-19 infection cluster at Grace Assembly of God is linked to the cluster at The Life Church and Missions Singapore, where two travellers from Wuhan had visited and were likely to be the source of infection. This linkage was established with the assistance of the Singapore Police Force.

Uncovering the index case at Grace Assembly of God cluster

2. Through detailed epidemiological investigation, MOH has determined that Case 66[1] was the primary case of this cluster, and that transmission to church members first occurred through staff meetings at the church’s Tanglin branch (355 Tanglin Road).

3. Case 66 had reported onset of symptoms on 29 January – the earliest in the cluster – and had gone to work at Grace Assembly of God while symptomatic. Sixteen cases[2] in the church were subsequently infected with COVID-19. Some were initially exposed to Case 66 at a staff meeting and subsequently infected other church members.

Establishing the links between the church clusters and source of infection

4. To determine how Case 66 had been infected, we investigated the locations he had visited, and people he had close contact with. We found that Case 66 had attended a Chinese New Year gathering at Mei Hwan Drive on 25 January. Cases 83 and 91 had also attended the same gathering. Hence there is a possible link between the cluster at Grace Assembly of God and the Chinese New Year gathering at Mei Hwan Drive.

5. Cases 83 and 91 are a married couple, and they were both not sick (i.e. they had no symptoms) at the time of investigations. But MOH’s records showed that Case 91 had gone to the emergency department at Sengkang General Hospital earlier on 26 January with symptoms consistent with COVID-19. Case 83 had also been unwell in end-January, and had repeatedly sought treatment at a general practitioner clinic.

6. Based on this finding, the MOH epidemiology team arranged for Cases 83 and 91 to be tested at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases, including the use of serological tests developed by researchers from the Duke-NUS Medical School. Their test results confirmed that they had earlier been infected with COVID-19.

7. Our investigations had earlier uncovered that Cases 83 and 91 were at The Life Church and Missions Singapore on the same day as Cases 8 and 9 – the Chinese nationals from Wuhan who had visited the church on 19 January. This meant that Cases 83 and 91 likely got infected from Cases 8 and 9, and went on to pass the infection to Case 66 at the Chinese New Year gathering on 25 January. Case 66 subsequently passed the infection to his colleagues at Grace Assembly of God.

A world-first in serological testing

8. The laboratory test currently used to confirm COVID-19 infection is a molecular test called Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR), which detects the presence of viral genetic material in a biological sample obtained from a patient. This test will not work if the patient has recovered and his body’s immune system has cleared the virus. However, the immune system produces antibodies in response to the infection. These virus specific antibodies will stay with the recovered patient for longer periods of time, which could be for at least several years.

9. The research team at Duke-NUS Medical School had earlier successfully cultured the COVID-19 virus in less than a week after Singapore confirmed its first COVID-19 case. Using the virus and genetic material derived from the virus, the research team had then rapidly developed several specific laboratory tests to detect the virus-specific antibodies for contact tracing and other applications.

10. Using two different antibody testing platforms (virus neutralisation assay and ELISA assay), the team at Duke-NUS Medical School proved that the two suspect Cases 83 and 91 were indeed infected with COVID-19 in late January 2020, as they had very high levels of the virus-specific antibodies in their blood. This result was a significant piece of evidence which confirmed the links between the church clusters and the two Wuhan travellers.

Close collaboration between stakeholders

11. To understand how the transmission likely occurred across the different cases, MOH and the Police had extensively analysed the activity maps of the confirmed cases, and interviewed them as well as their close contacts. With the discovery of the links between the two church clusters to the travellers from Wuhan, we have now determined the likely source of infection for a large majority of the locally transmitted cases. All this was achieved through close collaboration between the contact tracing and epidemiological teams in MOH, the Police and researchers at Duke-NUS Medical School.

https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/links-established-between-church-clusters-and-wuhan-travellers


344 posted on 02/25/2020 6:08:54 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

Yibin - resident comes to community center to get help for elderly with a cough - thrown out and told they deserved it

about 14 min in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgX6K_PNOg

Warning - at about 23min in a dog is drug out of a home and is beat to death in the belief that dogs carry virus - fast forward

at 25 min in, forced quarantine will cost 1K yuan a day

also, Shuangyou, Wenzhou, Zhejiang - businesses that reopen ahead of time are our class enemies hid amongst the people

and, want to enter Jiangxi to pay 11,200yuan in isolation

Yunan - 5 medics in Yunan province detained or fined for secretly filming and spreading situations about Coronavirus. 4 to be detained 10 days; 1 to be fined 500yuan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgX6K_PNOg


345 posted on 02/25/2020 6:09:02 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: LilFarmer

I use Swerve sweetener (erythritol), for what few desserts I have.

It’s pricey, but sourced in USA and France.

Here’s more info...

https://swervesweet.com/about


346 posted on 02/25/2020 6:09:21 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: richardskeet

“To answer this question will require going to each company and asking them directly, “how exposed are you?” “

Most companies making end-items likely don’t know their exposure, beyond their first tier suppliers. China has tentacles everywhere when it comes to production. That may not assemble that manly truck you just bought with a big “MADE IN TEXAS” on it, they may not have assembled the engine in that manly truck, they may not have assembled the pistons in that manly truck, they many not have made the piston rings in that manly truck, but they may have supplied a key ingredient for those rings, so they last more than 10,000 miles. Same for electronics, too, of course.


347 posted on 02/25/2020 6:11:28 AM PST by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: LilFarmer

It’s like Japan’s Ministry of Health and our CDC are reading from the same playbook:

“The government’s task force on the new coronavirus met on Tuesday at the prime minister’s office.

The task force says currently there are sporadic cases of patients in multiple areas of Japan where the route of infection is unclear. It also notes small clusters of infection in some areas.

To prevent the spread of the virus, the task force is calling on people to stay home from work or school if they develop a fever or symptoms of a cold. It’s also urging businesses to promote teleworking and flex-time commuting.

The task force stops short of urging across-the-board event cancellations and downsizing, but is asking organizers to reconsider whether they need to go ahead with their plans.

In regions that have seen a surge in the number of infections, people with minor symptoms will be principally asked to recuperate at home. Medical institutions that are not specialized to treat infectious diseases will be asked to take in patients after setting examination hours and movement zones.

In regions where cases of infection continue to rise, monitoring of people who’ve had close contact with patients will be scaled back. Instead they will be asked to stay indoors as much as possible.

When shifting to these measures, local governments will be asked to make their own decisions based on the health ministry’s ideas and situations in their

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200225_31/


348 posted on 02/25/2020 6:12:45 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Very interesting, and DETAILED info, regarding the Singapore clusters.

Hong Kong schools closed until April.


349 posted on 02/25/2020 6:12:51 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long

Thanks, I’ll check it out


350 posted on 02/25/2020 6:14:08 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Jane Long

Compare it to Japan in post 348, and the US ultimately. Incompetence just doesn’t explain this attitude of surrender. Is anyone else getting that vibe from this and the CDC doomsday post Sunday night.


351 posted on 02/25/2020 6:18:55 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: MadMike58

There was a twitter posted here a few days ago about if nurses were getting any training and the overall answer was, No.


352 posted on 02/25/2020 6:19:15 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Vermont Lt
Wait until it gets here. Can you see it now? “I don’t have to be in quarantine, I feel fine.”

That's absurd. That would be like a CDC employee, just back from treating Ebola patients, going out for pizza.

*cough* Ebola nurse Kaci Hickox... *cough*

353 posted on 02/25/2020 6:21:25 AM PST by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net; setter

To clarify, yes this production needs to come back to the US (or at least get out of China/Asia in the short term, on its way back here) and yes it’s gonna hurt economically, no matter what...I just don’t believe that, in response to another Freeper’s post, we would have released something like this on purpose.


354 posted on 02/25/2020 6:21:53 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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To: LilFarmer

Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
#Coronavirus Update:

As the virus spreads to more countries, including new outbreaks in Italy, South Korea and Japan...Democrats in Congress are playing politics and stonewalling a $2.5B request from
@WhiteHouse
to fight the coronavirus


355 posted on 02/25/2020 6:22:08 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Jane Long

My dumpy HEB has finally put wipes in the never used cart wipes container outside. Of course, it is impossible to discard them in the attached waste can without getting yourself germy because of the lid.


356 posted on 02/25/2020 6:23:23 AM PST by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer; All

Do you know if the classified meeting this morning is for both House and Senate?


357 posted on 02/25/2020 6:24:27 AM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: PIF

Well, sure: If you stand 100 ft. downwind from 20 severely ill hacking / coughing coronavirus victims for 15 minutes under JUST the right breeze conditions (mainly, no vertical mixing, and no direction changes, but enough breeze to carry the small % of the virus that is aerosolized to you B4 drying or UV gets it), and you have no mask properly worn, well, yeah, I suppose it is possible a susceptible person could get infected.

Don’t get me wrong. We humans have a quite serious situation on our hands here. But overstating risks (this virus is not nearly as contagious as, say, measles) is nearly as dangerous as understating them.


358 posted on 02/25/2020 6:27:33 AM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: All

NEW: Japanese woman who was allowed to leave Diamond Princess cruise ship after quarantine has tested positive for coronavirus - NHK


359 posted on 02/25/2020 6:29:27 AM PST by janetjanet998
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To: M1903A1

I don’t think it was released here on purpose but I do wonder if the lack of action by SOME in the CDC might on purpose - to make this President Trump’s “Katrina” as one person mentioned. After seeing warehouses sitting full of US supplies in PR after the hurricane, when people were dying, there’s no telling how far the nevertrumpers will go. And the whole Rod Rosenstein sister Nancy Messonnier being in charge is curious

Anyway, just my musings. Of course. I’d much rather think it’s incompetence but the more I see, the more I wonder.


360 posted on 02/25/2020 6:30:36 AM PST by LilFarmer
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