Posted on 03/10/2020 6:30:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Yes, that’s what it says on the ticket
No, that’s not what will happen in reality.
First, their corporate tough guys wi stupidly stand behind their policy
Second, the rage mob will descend
Third, those selfsame corporate tough guys worry about how this looks for their brand
Fourth, they’ll issue a partial refund based only on some idiotic criteria.
Fifth, they’ll get destroyed again
Sixth, they’ll finally issue a full refund
Companies just don’t understand the world they now inhabit. I wonder if they ever will.
Woodstock was not a free concert. But after the mobs demanded to be let in, it became a “Free Concert”.
“SXSW refusing to issue refunds after being canceled due to coronavirus”
that’ll probably end the festival for good as people won’t forget how badly they were treated ....
I wonder if colleges will give room and board refunds...
“Dispute the credit card transactions.”
that’s what i’d do ... if tens of thousands of peopled did that, the organizers would have a hard time responding in a timely manner to all of the disputes and would automatically lose the ones they couldn’t respond to ...
The airlines are refunding but the social justice warriors at SWSX are keeping everything they can get their mitts on.
Sort of like the DNC vs Bernie.
Oh wow. I’d be mad
I said libs...I certainly regret any collateral damage to our normal compatriots anywhere.
I expect that next year’s publicity campaign will be interesting. How often does a cancellation policy get any billing at all, let alone too billing?
“This time we will send a refund!” Good luck with that one .
COVID-19 Update As of 03/10/2020 23:13 PST
These numbers include Mainland China and All Others globally
The big news this morning is that yesterday 03/10/20 at 16:53 PDT, Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan
issued their last reports. The China listing is no longer Mainland China. It's just China, and
these three entities are no longer allowed to be counted outside China. Their numbers are
China's numbers now. So much for open honest reports from Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan.
This format allows you to see trends. I'll continue to use it.
Declared Cases
. Declared Deceased
. . Declared Recovered
. . . Declared Resolved
Date . . . . Cases Remining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03 93,160 3,198 50,690 53,888 39,272
03/04 95,425 3,286 53,399 56,685 38,740
03/05 98,387 3,383 55,441 58,824 39,563
03/06 102,188 3,491 57,389 60,880 41,308
03/07 106,165 3,977 59,965 63,559 42,606
03/08 110,041 3,825 62,000 65,825 44,216
03/09 114,452 4,026 64,169 68,195 46,257
03/10 119,132 4,284 65,776 70,060 49,072
It's not that easy to spot the changes in daily growth.03/03: 2,223 03/04: 2,265 03/05: 2,962 03/06: 3,801 03/07: 3,977 03/08: 3,876 03/09: 4,411 03/10: 4,680That's still a rather pronounced growth rate. On a normal day to day basis, it
I note that we saw very big numbers starting before the end of January and
running up until about the 18th of February. Then things died down. I don't
expect to see that type of dynamic outside of China. It was my take that word
from on high let it be known that any further declarations of cases, would
bring review of local leadership. Sounded like a neck-tie party to me, at the
time. Suddenly, the reported number of cases went down.
The last column there shows the numbers of active cases. You will note how
they were dropping, then started increasing again. Here are the last eight days
drop & then growth numbers.
03/03: -494 03/04: -532 03/05: 823 03/06: 1,745 03/07: 1,298 03/08: 1,610 03/09: 2,041 03/10: 2,815As you can tell, the active cases are heating up. With this type of daily
As most of you already know, we have hot spots around the world.
Let's look at how those numbers have changed over the last seven days.
South
Italy Iran Korea France Spain Germany U.S.A.
03/04: 3,089 2,322 5,756 285 222 262 159
03/05: 3,858 3,513 6,294 423 282 545 233
03/06: 4,636 4,747 6,767 653 401 670 338
03/07: 5,883 5,823 7,134 949 525 800 433
03/08: 7,375 6,566 7,382 1,209 673 1,040 554
03/09: 9,172 7,161 7,513 1,412 1,231 1,224 754
03/10: 10,149 8,042 7,755 1,784 1,695 1,565 1,037
I will touch on break out nations again lower in this report. The mortality rate that went as low as 5.65% on the 7th, has now
grown to 6.11%. The majority of new cases are coming from outside China.
In a few days, we should see the lag upswing in recovered patients growing
considerably. When that happens, it will take some of the pressure off
the growth in new cases, and the up-ticks in the mortality rate.
We also have to allow for the possibility that China's mortality rate
figures even for declared cases at trending ever lower, were not totally
on the up and up, and we may see higher mortality rates due to more
accurate reporting outside China.
COVID-19 cases outside China now make up 66.94% of global active cases.
The growth rate today was 4,300 active cases.
Some folks ask why I bother to report out Mainland China numbers. I do so
because it's all we have. We all know the reporting issues. I put this out
there and I think others can determine for themselves how much credence to
to attribute to them.
The numbers and percentages of resolved cases has continued to hold up pretty
well. On 03/07 at 18:03 PST the percentage peaked at 59.918% of all documented
cases having been resolved. As of the EOD 03/10, that percentage remained at
58.809%. That's actually pretty good considering the volume of new cases that
are now being reported, but it is slipping.
These numbers address the cases outside of Mainland China.
I will provide the same format for the numbers outside Mainland China.
Declared Cases
. Declared Deceased
. . Declared Recovered
. . . Declared Resolved
Date . . . . Cases Remaining Active
-----------------------------------------------------------------
03/03 12,890 217 837 1,054 11,836
03/04 15,015 279 1,222 1,501 13,514
03/05 17,832 341 1,685 2,026 15,806
03/06 21,537 421 1,986 2,407 19,130
03/07 25,470 497 2,871 3,368 22,102
03/08 29,285 706 3,389 4,095 25,190
03/09 33,696 890 4,258 5,148 28,548
03/10 38,176 1,122 4,206 5,328 32,848
You'll note the drop in declared recovered. That resulted in the figures forHong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan taking their numbers with them into the fog of China.
The United States saw growth of 37.53% of new cases. I mentioned if we saw
something approaching one third growth, we would break the 1,000 case barrier.
we did, with 1037 cases. Of those 998 are still active.
There are about 112 nations reporting right now. I'm rather vague on it because
each new report today had some sort of anomaly pop up. Several nations wanted to
be known as the Republic of such and such. We had those three nations sink back
inside China for reporting. We had some reports with one nation counted twice.
each of these required me to adjust my system to cover the changes.
Tonight we'll again take a look at seven nations outside China. These seven
account for close to 84% of the global numbers outside China. Here they are.
10,149 26.58% Italy
8,042 21.07% Iran
7,755 20.31% South Korea
1,784 04.67% France
1,695 04.44% Spain
1,565 04.10% Germany
1,037 02.72% the USA
------------- 83.89% of all cases outside of China...
These are clearly still seven nations worthy of watching.
This explains how many people there are to one case in these entities:
Globally : 158,339 Mainland China: 85,429 Outside China : 236,544 The U. S. A. : 331,062One thing still bothering me is the reporting of bad numbers early and
All data below sourced from Johns Hopkins University: LINK
I have been downloading three to five reports per day since 01/27. I have then
worked up numbers that should give a very good representation of numbers that
have been provided to the public via that site.
In my spreadsheet linked below, you'll find global numbers including China. You
will find a separate section addressing just the Outside China figures. Then
there is now also a section with just the United States stats in there. There
are also a lot of special stats broken out for you to browse. The history of
115 nations and their numbers from day one of their reporting.
You're welcome to it.
COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data
I now have an XLS file again, but it is for viewing only. I had to do a wrap-
around to get it to fit in the XLS file format. On the top right you will see
nations 1-70 listed. I cut and pasted nations 71-115 under them. You'll
see what I mean.
But Lefties hate capitalism /snort!
They will simply lose. It is one thing to say that you don’t get a refund if you don’t go for whatever reasons, but to say you don’t get a refund if the organization cancels, is a very different thing entirely. Besides, back to the credit cards, the processing companies will cancel them if they get significate disputes, which this will lead to. That will be expensive.
Didnt get what they paid for... that was my first thought.
Where does this data come from? John’s Hopkins?
What does “resolved” mean as opposed to “recovered”?
Have you graphed any of this?
Assuming SXSW sticks to the "no refunds" policy wonder what impact that'd have on next year's event, LOL!!
Talk about cutting one's nose off to spite their face.
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