Coronavirus Live Thread. No 14

3/11/2020

[Vermont Lt]

Time to stay calm and continue on....

Yesterday's thread is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3823193/posts

[CharleysPride]

I’d be in good company. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams...

well, Thomas Jefferson.

[caww]

Nobody knew what this was nor how to ward it off....it’s a new virus silly. You try identifying and running after an unknown virus around the world and execute the plans you have... and notify and confer with all the vast agencies who need to know and be on the same page... and let’s see how well you do.

So disgusted with people complaining......you Can Not ‘control’ a unknown virus you can only ‘contain it’ as much as possible once you know what you’re dealing with until there’s a vaccine and or treatment.....

The only ‘idiots’ out there are those who think they know how things should be working behind the scenes but haven’t a clue what’s actually been prevented by those working on this threat.

[SaxxonWoods]

Makes sense, thanks.

I thought it might be something along those lines. It will be devastating when it hits more third world countries if it’s this bad in Europe, etc.

[MplsSteve]

BUMP for later reading and possible commenting...

[Ozark Tom]

Universal poor air quality in cities, with 2.5 particulate index readings deep in the ‘don’t inhale’ category might play a part. Tobacco smoke on top of this background might just be a garnish of frosting.

[Bon mots]

I've posted this elsewhere, but I don't think in a daily Corona thread, so here goes...

Well, look at this:

An article published in Nature Medicine in 2015 with a co-author from Wuhan institute.
If you read the abstract it says they have assembled a virus in the lab that can transmit from bats to humans.

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Remember that time when a virus escaped from a Chinese lab...

The 1977 H1N1 human influenza pandemic
Due to lab mishandling, a strain of the H1N1 influenza managed to escape from a Chinese facility that was likely trying to create a vaccine for the disease. The virus spread globally and had an infection rate of 20% to 70% among those exposed. Luckily, the strain of the virus caused only mild disease and few fatalities.

Various SARS outbreaks
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) was a global epidemic in 2003 that caused 8,000 infections and 774 deaths across 29 countries.
Since the original epidemic, there have been six escapes of the virus from laboratories — four in Beijing, and an additional one each in Singapore and Taiwan.

In all cases, the virus escaped due to negligence and human error. Fortunately, none of those escapes led to a renewed outbreak.

Outside China too!

The 2007 Foot and Mouth (FMD) outbreak in the UK
FMD is a highly transmissible disease that infects cloven-hoofed animals. Outbreaks of the disease can cause billions of dollars in economic damage as millions of animals may need to be culled to limit the disease's spread. In 2007, 278 animals in the UK became infected with FMD after the virus escaped from a biosafety lab four kilometers away. The outbreak required 1,578 animals to be culled and cost an estimated 200 million pounds.

Smallpox outbreaks in Great Britain
From 1963 to 1978, there were three smallpox escapes from two different laboratories. All three were due to poor standards and bad practices within the labs. Three cases and at least 80 deaths were linked to the outbreaks.

The 1995 Venezuelan equine encephalitis (VEE) outbreak
In 1995, 10,000 people in Venezuela and 75,000 people in Colombia fell ill with a VEE strain that had escaped from a lab. The outbreak caused upwards of 311 deaths and 3,000 cases of neurological complications.

Then there's Russia...

2000 - Russia
Smallpox infected 8 young children in Vladivostock who had played with discarded ampoules of smallpox vaccine has now been confirmed by the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation. Smallpox Russia

Just last year a lab explosion tore through a Russian bioweapons lab that stores Smallpox, Ebola and other nasty things.

1970 The Aral smallpox incident was a July 30, 1971 outbreak of the viral disease which occurred as a result of a field test at a Soviet biological weapons facility on an island in the Aral Sea. The incident sickened ten people, of whom three died, and came to widespread public notice only in 2002.

[Bitman]

Hmmmm... Lots of folks here seem to comment first and read later. Just an observation.

[MplsSteve]

“The five IRGC members and a number of Basij members have been “martyred” in the “fight against coronavirus,” the semi-official Tasnim news agency cited Sharif as saying. The Basij is a paramilitary arm of the IRGC.”

If there’s a good thing to be found here, this may be it.

[janetjanet998]

PANDEMIC now

World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO
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“We have therefore made the assessment that #COVID19 can be characterized as a pandemic”-
@DrTedros
#coronavirus

[dfwgator]

WHO is now calling it a “pandemic”.

[cgbg]

Lookner:

WHO reversed themselves and now characterizes the virus outbreak as a pandemic.

Pandemic implies international spreading.

[LilFarmer]

I nailed it last night!

1st death in Africa = WHO declaring pandemic today

[dfwgator]

You did.

[cgbg]

Gold star—predictions here have been _money_!

[caww]

First thing I noticed was hardly any road traffic and all the lights were green! It was a straight drive!

Second thing were all the deals I found....the Deli gal said after 8:00 you’ll find deals. From breads/doughnuts to meat/veggies.

Third thing was the only shelves really emptied was toilet paper and there were still choices left and more was ready to go up on their gurney’s.

[LilFarmer]

What do I win? An all expense paid cruise on the Egypt Nile?

[CharleysPride]

Ahh, isn’t that some legally operative term for them?

Somebody posted about the declaration triggering all sorts of financing, etc.

[LilFarmer]

VA

The latest case, in Hanover County, is someone who had traveled internationally, health officials said.
...

Of the nine Virginia cases, four are believed to have been exposed to the coronavirus while on a cruise on the Nile River in Egypt.

https://www.richmond.com/special-report/coronavirus/hanover-records-first-coronavirus-case-in-region-northam-says-virginia/article_55e267a5-0ff9-5a9d-9b3f-6d1d47a8931b.html

[Vermont Lt]

Funny....I don’t feel different. LOL

[LilFarmer]

NJ

TRENTON, New Jersey (WPVI) — Late Wednesday morning, New Jersey reported 8 new cases of COVID-19, raising the state total to 23...

...This news came as four additional presumptive positive cases were reported in New Jersey, including a couple in Riverton, Burlington County.

The residents are a 62-year-old man and a 60-year-old woman, who are husband and wife, with a history of travel to Italy, Burlington County health officials said. They have both been isolated at home with mild illness since March 4.

https://6abc.com/health/nj-reports-8-new-cases-of-covid-19;-state-total-rises-to-23/5997159/