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Corona Virus Daily Thread #45 COVID-19
many | 04-15-20 | many

Posted on 04/15/2020 2:51:53 PM PDT by RaceBannon

New Thread, starting 4/15/2020


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 45threadc; batsoup; chinasgift; coronavirus; covid19; pandemic; virus; xiliedpeopledied
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We need to protect America from further epidemics starting in China more than we need to punish China for this one. Not that the two can't be combined, but the goal is protection from more of the same, particularly as more of the same as those will be an existential threat to our economy.

Protection requires more that we keep Chinese out of our country, so infected Chinese don't spread future diseases here, than keeping Chinese goods out. Keeping Chinese out means no Chinese students or tourists first, no trade delegations second, etc.

And I would for sure keep out Chinese agricultural products, or any Chinese products whatever intended or used for ultimate human or animal consumption. Do you remember the poisoned pet food which used a prohibited chemical and was deliberately mislabeled by the Chinese exporter? Chinese products are POISON.

There are lots of reasons for prohibitive tariffs on imports from China besides punishment/revenge for CV19. Chinese theft of American technology and trade secrets alone justifies prohibitive tariffs on imports from China.

But the real reason for prohibitive tariffs is PROTECTION from further Chinese epidemics. The epidemics are rooted in the nature of China's Communist regime. This is not the time to go into the latter. But what we really need for protection from further Chinese epidemics is something called:

forced REGIME CHANGE, which we did to the old Soviet Union. We've done it before and we can do it again, and the same means we used against the USSR will work to terminate the Chinese Communist Party - economic warfare on an international scale. And with a World War Two priority.

So we don't just keep Chinese products out of the US, we also keep them out of as much of the rest of the world as possible. That can start with 100% tariffs on any product made anywhere which contains ANYTHING made in China.

More later.

621 posted on 04/17/2020 9:21:46 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Paul R.

We had a few new meat processing plants report cases today. So we probably currently have a few dozen known plants with issues. All springing up in past two weeks. Now a main fear from two months ago, was this transferring from humans to farm animals. Are these plants getting infected by the animals. We know it transferred to zoo Tigers and house cats. Poor PPE and work conditions probably explains internal plant issues. But if its spreading through farm animals, we have a new issue. Once the infected plants get to 50, it should at least be considered a possibility.


622 posted on 04/17/2020 9:51:27 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ETCM

Sounds like Texas will do a limited opening. Curbside pickups only.


623 posted on 04/17/2020 9:54:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Jane Long

I tried taping a coffee filter inside a T-shirt mask — became a total CF, with my exhalations shooting out of the top, etc. A miserable affair.


624 posted on 04/17/2020 10:24:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Jane Long

It was one of tonight’s boned attempts, BTW.


625 posted on 04/17/2020 10:25:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Found the name of patient zero lab worker . its in various news stories. Cant link right now. Saw it on the sun website but forbes also has it


626 posted on 04/17/2020 11:09:08 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: RummyChick

This attacked by a bat story been going on since feb. Somehow i missed it. Bat lady denied yangling worked for the lab as did chen wei.

Bat lady also swore no one has been sick from the lab back in Feb


627 posted on 04/17/2020 11:14:58 PM PDT by RummyChick ( Yeah, it's Daily Mail. So what.)
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To: All

“WHO warning: No evidence that antibody tests can show coronavirus immunity”

- see https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/who-issues-warning-on-coronavirus-testing-theres-no-evidence-antibody-tests-show-immunity.html


628 posted on 04/17/2020 11:54:36 PM PDT by Fury
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To: grey_whiskers

“Who f*cking cares? Montagnier is still a Nobel winner talking about his own specialty.”

Everyone investigating the virus cares. In the world of medical research your claims have to be reproducible by others. No one gives a rat’s ass if you have a Nobel if your new “research” can’t be validated.

And right now no one but Luc Montagnier is saying that SARS-CoV-2 has HIV and/or Ebola inserted in it.

Researchers back in 2003 noted similarities between SARS and HIV-1. That isn’t new and it’s not a sign that the virus is manmade.


629 posted on 04/18/2020 12:18:00 AM PDT by Pelham (Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: Paul R.

me too, not sure why


630 posted on 04/18/2020 4:33:08 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: justa-hairyape

And we all know there are a lot of people who died in their homes from CV. /sarc


631 posted on 04/18/2020 5:14:11 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: justa-hairyape

“This is an opportunity for the US to build manufacturing facilities designed for the new SARS Airborne bioweapon virus.”

???


632 posted on 04/18/2020 5:25:03 AM PDT by DEPcom (It will be 2x to 8x worst then the flu)
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To: sockmonkey

Good lesson with the rust.


633 posted on 04/18/2020 5:25:57 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: RaceBannon

Thank you


634 posted on 04/18/2020 5:27:12 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: Varsity Flight

Hahaha!


635 posted on 04/18/2020 5:59:49 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: justa-hairyape

“Are these plants getting infected by the animals.”

Yes, they are called PETA.


636 posted on 04/18/2020 6:08:54 AM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Pelham
Naaah, you're wrong. I'm just too lazy this morning to find the sequencing articles, but one of those hand-waving about pangolins admitted that the cleavage site isn't found in pangolin viruses, and that (what was it, six or so?) consecutive amino acids in it, were inserted from whole cloth.

The other thing is, the key amino acids in the ACE2 receptor, which are all non-consecutive, all changed from known bat coronaviruses to this one, to the "right" amino acid to enhance binding to the human ACE2, all at the same time.

Those *do* coincide with pangolin, IIRC. But when species exchange genetic material, don't they usually exchange continguous patches all at once, rather than enough for spot-mutations of amino acids which enhance infectivity? And the other thing is, I read this week that this virus binds to two other receptors -- one is (IIRC) CD147 and I don't remember the other. I don't remember any papers having examined which AA residues are responsible for that, nor comparing the genetic sequence for that to known bat coronaviruses or pangolins. I think it was the earlier Indian paper, or one shortly after it, that mentioned the filovirus (Ebola) insertions. But that got pulled immediately after intense political pressure -- for *obvious* reasons Panda-trying-to-get-away-with-bioweapon everyone-else-tiptoeing-away-from-nuclear-war. Nice try, troll-boi vermin.

637 posted on 04/18/2020 6:51:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: RummyChick

Workers rights’ group = Union influence.
But Bozos who owns Amazon, is a never-Trumper and dumped his wife for a younger looking version of her.
Let them eat their own.


638 posted on 04/18/2020 6:54:32 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Myrddin

Congrats to you, sir, it must be a great relief. :-D
Best to you and the wife.


639 posted on 04/18/2020 6:55:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: crusty old prospector
I do hope that you are aware that vulgarity is no substitute for wit.

We've become quite aware of it from watching you, as you possess neither one.

640 posted on 04/18/2020 6:56:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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