CoVid-19: Why Some People Get Sicker Than Others: COVID-19 is proving to be a disease of the immune system. This could, in theory, be controlled.

The Atlantic ^ | 04/23/2020 | James Hamblin

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The COVID-19 crash comes suddenly. In early March, the 37-year-old writer F. T. Kola began to feel mildly ill, with a fever and body aches. To be safe, she isolated herself at home in San Francisco. Life continued apace for a week, until one day she tried to load her dishwasher and felt strangely exhausted.

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COVID-19 is, in many ways, proving to be a disease of uncertainty. According to a new study from Italy, some 43 percent of people with the virus have no symptoms. Among those who do develop symptoms, it is common to feel sick in uncomfortable but familiar ways—congestion, fever, aches, and general malaise. Many people start to feel a little bit better. Then, for many, comes a dramatic tipping point. “Some people really fall off the cliff, and we don’t have good predictors of who it’s going to happen to,” Stephen Thomas, the chair of infectious diseases at Upstate University Hospital, told me. Those people will become short of breath, their heart racing and mind detached from reality. They experience organ failure and spend weeks in the ICU, if they survive at all.

Meanwhile, many others simply keep feeling better and eventually totally recover. Kola’s friend Karan Mahajan, an author based in Providence, Rhode Island, contracted the virus at almost the same time she did. In stark contrast to Kola, he said, “My case ended up feeling like a mild flu that lasted for two weeks. And then it faded after that.”

This degree of uncertainty has less to do with the virus itself than how our bodies respond to it. As Murphy puts it, when doctors see this sort of variation in disease severity, “that’s not the virus; that’s the host.” Since the beginning of the pandemic, people around the world have heard the message that older and chronically ill people are most likely to die from COVID-19. But that is far from a complete picture of who is at risk of life-threatening disease. Understanding exactly how and why some people get so sick while others feel almost nothing will be the key to treatment.

[kiryandil]

I know a lot of people don't like your article posts, but you've been doing yeoman work in keeping us up-to-date on The Covid.

Reminds me of 2ndDivisionVet...

[politicianslie]

[SeekAndFind]

RE: I know a lot of people don’t like your article posts,

Yes, I am aware of that. When they complain, I just tell them that they are free NOT to read my posts. It isn’t for them but only for those interested.

[montag813]

When you wake up in the a.m., before you do anything else, take 10,000 I.U. of D3. Preferably liquid drops in olive or other oil. Nothing is more important to maintaining immune strength.

Also helpful: Matcha green tea, which has EGCG, perhaps the most powerful anti-oxidant. Take with pure vitamin C or fish oil to enhance absorption.

DO NOT take any "multivitamin." They are useless, because they combine water- and fat-soluble vitamins and minerals in one tablet, thereby ensuring you will just pee almost of all it out. Instead take them separately. Take B12, B6, etc, with C, zinc and other water-soluble vitamins. Take D3 with E, K2, or A, which are fat-soluble.

[Truthoverpower]

To me - this bug or any bug ( virus bacteria etc ). it’s all about how much of a population It can get going in your organism

There are plenty of viruses just floating around in the air and in space

So what you want is a level of antivirals in your system all the time

and then take much heavier doses if the pathogen is attacking you

Viruses are tricky little bugs because they’re not alive

But they can reproduce they just have to do it at a parasitic fashion

It has to use your cells. To replicate

With this novel coronavirus then, if the population gets severe enough - then it can start doing his pulmonary attacks, and other attacks.

Like the robbing of the hemoglobin of it’s iron

So here’s what you do with viruses

you kill them , relentlessly.

[kiryandil]

I know a lot of people don't like your article posts, but you've been doing yeoman work in keeping us up-to-date on The Covid.

Reminds me of 2ndDivisionVet...

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[metmom]

That’s why initial viral loads are so critical.

[kiryandil]

Thanks for the vitamin tips here, montag!

I've been doing the separate dosing thingee, but include the multivitamin with a fat load.

I'm only on 3,000 to 4,000 IU of vit D, because I've read that you can get TOO much of it.

Any literature on that heavy a dose?

Good to know about which vitamins to take with which.

[metmom]

2ndDivisionVet has passed away
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[Candor7]

FANTASTIC!

Adding my two cents:

[kiryandil]

2ndDivisionVet has passed away

Yes, I know - I miss him and his article posts, even though I dragged him heavily during the primary wars of 2016.

Hey, I still post to Chapita every once in a while, when I see a good Medal of Honor story. I know they're looking in on us.

[cradle of freedom]

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[volunbeer]

Informative article with some new stuff so thanks for posting. I think the last paragraphs with the politics detracted from the good information, but then again, it’s the Atlantic.

Obesity and diabetes are a big problem in the African-American community. It is a simple reality and it has NOTHING to do with public policy by government or social justice. The numbers will be skewed based on many factors, but underlying illness, old age, and overall physical health appear to be the dominant factors in mortality risks.

[Lizavetta]

take 10,000 I.U. of D3

What brand?

[mass55th]

"COVID-19 is proving to be a disease of the immune system..."

Read an article the other day about the virus having been altered with HIV:

COVID-19 Created in Lab with HIV”. Medicine Nobel confirms Indian Research disclosed by VT

There are many other immune system conditions as well. I was diagnosed by my Rheumatologist as having an "undifferentiated connective tissue disorder." My mother was diagnosed with Lupus in the late 60's. They really didn't know much about the disease back then. My doctor sent me for an anti-nuclear antibody screen test, and my numbers were high, but because I didn't have enough Lupus symptoms, they couldn't diagnose me with it. So, I fell into this grey area, and my doctor says a lot of people are in the same category.

[mass55th]

One other thing that has been in the news lately is that younger people who test positive for the virus are at a higher risk of blood clots and strokes. With that in mind, and with the substance of the article I just posted, I did a search for HIV and blood clots, and found several sources that state blood clots can be prevalent in HIV patients. Here's one article from 2008 about it:

HIV may cause dangerous blood clots

So is it possible that the HIV ribbon inserted in the virus, may be the cause for the blood clots that are occurring? My youngest son had surgery for cancerous polyps last year, and went through 7 months of chemo. He ended up with a blood clot in his lung due to the chemo, and had to go on blood thinners throughout the remainder of his chemo, and for a few months afterwards.

[Magic Fingers]

(Non-government group) Vitamin D Council, as well as other Vitamin D researchers, suggest 5,000 IU/day for most adults...aimed at attaining a blood level of 50-100 ng/ml (determined via lab test, which can be ordered from companies like Life Extension, et al).

D should be taken w/Vitamin K; some recommend taking them at separate times (for example, D in the morning, K in the evening).

Take D with a fat-containing meal to maximize absorption.

I have been taking 7,500-10,000 IU/day for about 15 years and my blood level at last check was 55 ng/ml. Overdosing is possible, but not nearly as likely as previously believed.

[mdmathis6]

The body will take what it needs and pee the rest out....high dosing is only good for deficiencies but can be toxic if too much is “forced” on the body. A vitamin maintenance program is good only when there are chances that dietary intake will not be enough to maintain average daily dose requirements or the diets in some are quirky(and lacking in some key elements) or appetites are poor.

Stress type elements and vitamins are good for what they are good for, acute illnesses and injuries.

There are no magic potions that will cure everything but even every “Gilead” has its balm!

[MrChips]

In addition to the multivitamins I take on a daily basis, I have added vitamin D supplements and zinc supplements. Good idea?