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Neandertals had older mothers and younger fathers
Phys dot org ^ | April 23, 2020 | Max Planck Society

Posted on 04/25/2020 9:03:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: FLT-bird

https://www.livescience.com/28036-neanderthals-facts-about-our-extinct-human-relatives.html

[snip] Neanderthals lived in nuclear families. Discoveries of elderly or deformed Neanderthal skeletons suggest that they took care of their sick and those who could not care for themselves. Neanderthals typically lived to be about 30 years old, though some lived longer. It is accepted that Neanderthals buried their dead, though whether or not they left carved bone shards as grave goods is debated... Neanderthals were primarily carnivorous, and the harsh climate caused them to resort occasionally to cannibalism. Recently, however, scientists have found that Neanderthals actually ate cooked vegetables fairly regularly. [/snip]


41 posted on 04/26/2020 11:08:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe the popular meme is wrong.

What if Neandertal society was actually based on Cave Cougars going out with clubs to bring home a trophy stud?


42 posted on 04/26/2020 11:09:03 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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To: wildbill
What I wonder is, why hasn't a Raquel Welch "Million Years BC" graphic appeared in this thread?

43 posted on 04/26/2020 11:44:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let me play you the song of my people!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCV6paTXyCU&t=15s


44 posted on 04/26/2020 11:48:10 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

“She was a big woman...”


45 posted on 04/26/2020 11:50:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
When the first Neanderthal discoveries were made, "thal" was the German spelling. The German spelling was reformed later--the "th" was pronounced like "t"--but the original version of the name had become well known by then.

"Thal" is cognate with the English word "dale."

The German book Die Neandertaler by Friedemann Schrenk and Stephanie Mu+ller was translated into English and published as The Neanderthals.

46 posted on 04/26/2020 12:06:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

The lack of the “th” sound in German (”hello mudduh, hello faddah”) isn’t new, just the standard spelling changed. “Z” comes out “tz” when pronounced. English of course drives most people crazy I’m sure. :^)

I watch this guy for a few minutes every now and then, hoping to get the gist (hoping he gets to the point iow) before his lack of “th” runs me off.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ZONEofTECH


47 posted on 04/26/2020 12:12:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: FLT-bird

The “Frank and Ernest” cartoon for 2/7/2020 was “The First Tax Authorities.” As Frank and Ernest (attired as cavemen) walk past a large man holding a club and a spear, Frank tells Ernest, “We only audit gatherers. Auditing hunters is too dangerous.”


48 posted on 04/26/2020 12:18:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv
Many European languages lack a "th" sound. It doesn't help that English has two "th" sounds which are spelled the same way (the "th" in "thin" is a different sound than the "th" in "the"). When you learn a second language as an adult it can be hard to acquire the right pronunciation of sounds that are not used in your mother tongue.

The consonant correspondences between English and German can be interesting and they fall into patterns. English "th" is often a "d" in German ("the" vs. "der"/"die"/"das"; "think" vs. "denken," etc.), but an English "t" is often "z" in German ("two" vs. "zwei," "tongue" vs. "Zunge," "to" vs. "zu," "tug" vs. "Zug," etc.), English "d" vs. German "t" ("dale" vs. "tal," "daughter" vs. "Tochter," "day" vs. "Tag," "dead" vs. "tot," etc.) and English "v" vs. German "b" ("harvest" vs. "Herbst," "seven" vs. "sieben," "knave" vs. "Knabe," etc.). Of course sometimes the cognate words have shifted meaning over the centuries.

49 posted on 04/26/2020 12:34:16 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, please.


50 posted on 04/27/2020 3:29:02 PM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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To: wildbill
Bernard Rose on One Million Years BC

51 posted on 04/27/2020 3:53:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: PapaBear3625; tbw2; blam; SunkenCiv; All

If I remember correctly, Gengis Khan’s wife was 5 or 6 years older. It makes sense. Young men are at the peak of their strength and energy for hunting and fighting. Women their age are not fully mature for childbearing in what was a very hard life for women as well. So it would make sense to have an older more physically mature woman for a mate. If Neanderthals were men at age 13, that would have been a bit young for the childbearing female.


52 posted on 04/28/2020 11:18:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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According to wiki, his first wife was one year older. The marriage was arranged by their parents when she was 10 and he was 9, and they married 7 years later when he was about 16 and she was 17.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan#B%C3%B6rte

It made sense for the son of a ruler to start making heirs as soon as he physically could (about 12 or 13) and it also made sense for his wife to be grown enough to safely bear children (17 or older)


53 posted on 04/29/2020 11:15:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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