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Windows 7: A year after the end-of-support deadline, millions choose not to upgrade
ZDNet ^ | Dec 30, 2020 | Ed Bott

Posted on 12/31/2020 7:14:13 AM PST by dayglored

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To: GBA
> I want to build or buy a new desktop and then transfer the old Win 7 computer to it “as is”. I have a never used copy of Win 7 still factory sealed in the box waiting for me to do this “one of these days”.

Unless the hardware of the new computer is nearly identical to the hardware of the old computer, you may have trouble transferring the old Win7 to the new hardware "as is". That said, it's often possible, if you use a good system-migration program that can accommodate different source and target configurations. Probably the toughest thing will be finding device drivers for new hardware that isn't supported by Win7, since most manufacturers stopped releasing drivers for Win7 years ago.

As to starting with a fresh Win7 installation, it may have trouble with device drivers for the above reason, and that commonly includes the network driver, meaning you'll have no internet on the new machine until you get the right driver. So make sure you have another computer that can connect to the internet, search for drivers, download them, and put them on a USB stick for transfer to the new machine. Then you can start doing Windows Updates. Win7 SP1 typically has around 250 updates to download and install, and it takes many download/install/reboot cycles (lather, rinse, repeat).

Make sure that "one of these days" happens at a time when you have lots of time. And good luck! :-)

61 posted on 12/31/2020 9:40:03 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: 1Old Pro
I guess perhaps Samsung this time.

I cannot recommend Samsung. They stopped Android OS updates after my S9 reached 2 model years old. I did receive some security updates earlier this week however Android 10 is the last OS update it'll receive per Samsung's website.

As much as I hate to say it, I may go to an iPhone. GF's iPhone 10 seems faster than my S9 and the sound is far superior to it as well. Same for the photo's the iPhone takes.

62 posted on 12/31/2020 9:45:31 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
As much as I hate to say it, I may go to an iPhone. GF's iPhone 10 seems faster than my S9 and the sound is far superior to it as well. Same for the photo's the iPhone takes.

UGH, wife has one, I've been avoiding Apple but like you may be forced into it.

63 posted on 12/31/2020 9:48:14 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: dayglored

Thank you!
That sounds like something I could screw up on my own, but I do know people smarter. I once tried and couldn’t even figure out how to open the Win 7 laptop and get the hard drive out. Told myself it was about as prudent as representing myself in court, if not performing my own surgery.
(At some things I’m positively brilliant. One of them is in knowing my limits!)


64 posted on 12/31/2020 9:52:37 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: sneakers

bttt


65 posted on 12/31/2020 9:58:43 AM PST by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party! )
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To: dayglored

I would still be using it at work, but we had to upgrade to 10 (spit) to accommodate some new techie stuff.


66 posted on 12/31/2020 10:06:39 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: dayglored
Thanks! That’s exceptionally good advice. You are right about all you’ve said and warned me about.

I do have the transfer software now thanks to a previous thread here talking about the most painless ways to do this, but ...

You are right about the drivers and that update list is long and tedious to install ... been there and done that a few times.

Which is why you are also right about why it’s still a “one of these days” project.

Dread looms large and procrastination is even stronger, but sadly, motivation is just barely visible in the shadows, leaning against the wall and pretending to not be interested.

While I listen to the loud sound of static on AM stations when that computers is running ... hmmm ... power supply? Hard drive? ... not sure, but something’s not happy.

67 posted on 12/31/2020 10:12:11 AM PST by GBA
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To: BlessedBeGod

You and me, both.


68 posted on 12/31/2020 10:15:45 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dayglored

I am on Windows 7. I have NO plans on changing to Windows 10.


69 posted on 12/31/2020 10:20:17 AM PST by CaliGirl
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To: dayglored

26 years in the IT business “spoiled” me with ready access to current iterations of software. Happily retired now and content to let my software age along with me.


70 posted on 12/31/2020 10:20:40 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: GBA
> While I listen to the loud sound of static on AM stations when that computers is running ... hmmm ... power supply? Hard drive? ... not sure, but something’s not happy.

IMO most likely culprit is the power supply. It's a "switching" supply, and generates RF hash not only at the switching frequency (generally 25-100KHz) but at all the harmonics, which easily reach up into the 650-1530 KHz AM radio band. Of course there may be other culprits as well, and the many cables can act as antennas.

I have been known to use a hand-held AM pocket radio as a "sniffer" to see where static is coming from. Surprisingly effective, and informative.

71 posted on 12/31/2020 10:23:47 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

Still have Windows 7 on my desktop. It feels like a sports car compared to the miserble W10 on my laptop.


72 posted on 12/31/2020 10:25:19 AM PST by Chaguito
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To: dayglored

Dealing with 10 on my wife’s laptop cements my decision to stay with 7 pro 64.

Her rage when MS decides to update and she is locked out is just icing.


73 posted on 12/31/2020 10:43:04 AM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Baldwin77

“Bought a new laptop 3 yrs ago and insisted on W7. “

Did the same. Dell was still selling them and I grabbed one.


74 posted on 12/31/2020 10:46:17 AM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Windows 10 is a pita. Absolutely. It is the worst PC program I have ever used. Ever. It is snarky, obliterates date into a disappearance channel, it takes you where you never had any intention of going and it changes all kinds of things during the night including passwords and ID.

My old Dell is a 7 but its motor burned out and I don’t have the money to replace it.

Life is often hard and unexpected. If I this piece of HPS continues to give me problems I will trash it and never get another computer. I really don’t care anymore...it is used for FR and for internet searches, primarily. I will find someone who will share...maybe

Do you see how we have been captured?


75 posted on 12/31/2020 11:00:25 AM PST by Bodega
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To: doorgunner69

If you’re using your laptop with WiFi exclusively (no wired network connections) you can effectively stop updates by changing the WiFi connection to “Metered Mode”. This is the very first thing I do when setting up a new Win 10 machine.

More info and instructions here: https://www.howtogeek.com/226722/HOW-WHEN-AND-WHY-TO-SET-A-CONNECTION-AS-METERED-ON-WINDOWS-10/

Please note that if you plug a live Ethernet cable into your laptop you will receive updates almost immediately.


76 posted on 12/31/2020 11:13:55 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: BlessedBeGod
I'm still on Windows 7, with no plans to upgrade.

Count me in. Win 7 forever.

77 posted on 12/31/2020 11:20:48 AM PST by upchuck (My Christmas wish for term limits was not granted. Bah! Humbug!!)
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To: dayglored

bmp


78 posted on 12/31/2020 12:02:02 PM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: minnesota_bound
I used Winaero Tweaker to tame down WinBlows 10. I was able to get rid of all of the adds/bloatware.. and to stop the constant (unknown and normal) updates.

I believe I started using it either with XP or Win7, and it is a small but powerful tweaking program.
You should check it out (even for win7).
79 posted on 12/31/2020 12:10:32 PM PST by Bikkuri (Joe Biden: “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization ")
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To: duckman

I was bouncing weekly between DOS 6.62 and Windows 3.0.


80 posted on 12/31/2020 12:17:07 PM PST by Bikkuri (Joe Biden: “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization ")
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