Posted on 07/09/2021 6:34:47 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
10:56 AM · Jul 8, 2021
I think I've had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself.
Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to them.
Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo, etc).
These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.
Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew.
This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.
At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing. When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't happen.
We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele's source told the FBI the info was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.
Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution - agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another year.
Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected admin.
This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper.
GOP propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.
It's hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking of gov't as a conspiracy... Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don't stand for the Anthem.
They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government. But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or gov't official, because they feel most betrayed by them.
The idea that the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If that were true, they'd be all over the Epstein story. The corporate press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline. Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.
This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don't know for certain whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for absolute certain that the press, the FBI, etc would lie to them if there was. They have every reason to believe that, and it's probably true.
They watched the press behave like animals for four years. Tens of millions of people will always see Kavanaugh as a gang rapist, based on nothing, because of CNN. And CNN seems proud of that. They led a lynch mob against a high school kid. They cheered on a summer of riots.
They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now they don't. It's a different thing to watch them invent stories whole cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence.
Time Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution.
Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to change voting procedures. It wasn't just the mail-ins (they lowered signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now.
Re: "fake impeachment", we now know that Trump's request for Ukraine to cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden's $ activities in Ukraine was in support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request.
Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now admit it was a "mistake" - but, ya know, the election's over, so who cares?
Goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr's laptop, full of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn't have been banned.
Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source. The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information.
The reaction of Trump ppl to all this was not, "no fair!" That's how they felt about Romney's "binders of women" in 2012. This is different. Now they see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use any means to exclude them from the political process.
And yet they showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in 2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states (and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew.
Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one, then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a concrete name on something very real.
Media & Tech did everything to make things worse. Everything about the election was strange - the changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc - but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they banned discussion of it (even in DMs!).
Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr's laptop would've been the story of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same, except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome would've been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof.
Even the courts' refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They'll say, w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing he'll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house?
It's a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were "protests", but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too.
Before Twatter deep sixes this guy down the memory hole.
Bomk
Noice....that Tucker covered this!!
Just watched that. Re-affirmation of what we thought since that Wednesday morning.
Just about nails it.
This was quite the thread.
Here are a couple of comments he made after Tucker's show. LOL
Thread See new Tweets Conversation MartyrMade @martyrmade · 49m To anyone emailing or messaging me: If I can't get back to you, I'm sorry, blame Tucker. MartyrMade @martyrmade Replying to @martyrmade I’m an introvert, wtf I was I thinking? 6:09 PM · Jul 9, 2021·Twitter Web App ·
This tweet storm was a very nice summation of 5 years of abuse, deceit and traitorous behavior by the deep state and the media. It was several minutes in length, and comprehensive.
And we, here, know the expanded version which is incredibly complex, not to mention maddening.
I’ll be saving a copy of this to have a heart-to-heart with my granddaughter, who fell into the trap and foolishly embraced the lies of the left and voted for Biden in her first election. Poor kid hasn’t a clue about how addled he is and needs to be made aware why it’s costing so much to fill her car with gas these days.
it was good to see it on Tucker EXCEPT for the following tweet which Tucker read near the end, which begins -
Tweet: Martyr-Made: Forget the ballot conspiracies...ETC
https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1413197905184235521
HELLOOOOOO...
Very well written stuff. That gal from San Fran was good too. And did you see what the disgusting commie said to her?
It’s great, they’ve bascially declared war on the American family, and our CHILDREN. They are doing A HELL of a job.
Keep it up you stupid commies.
This guy has actually tied things together remarkably well.
Couple of key points missed:
1)The Steele hoax “source” is a suspected Russian spy. His name is Igor Danchenko.
2)Gowdy has admitted the FIB was lying to the GOP Congress about FISAgate in 2017. They did nothing about it.
Good summary overall but the author downplays the bipartisan nature of the coup against candidate and President Trump. That is the first stop we must make in reviewing the events of the past 5 years.
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Well said.
full of it, but worth noting, especially as it’s been reported previously that Rupert wanted Trump out:
10 July: Business Insider Australia: New book reveals Trump’s ‘grim’ reaction when Fox News called Arizona for Biden: ‘What the f-—?’
by Sonam Sheth
Then President Donald Trump flew into a rage when Fox News called the state of Arizona for Democratic nominee Joe Biden on Election Night 2020, according to “Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency” by Michael Wolff...
The head of the company, Rupert Murdoch, had greenlit the network’s election desk to call Arizona for Biden just minutes earlier.
Shortly after 11 p.m. ET, Murdoch’s son Lachlan got a call from Fox News’ data operation saying they were ready to make the Arizona call. Lachlan relayed the information to his father and asked if the network should go ahead and announce it.
“His father, with signature grunt, assented, adding, ‘F-— him,’” Wolff wrote...
In the weeks and months after Biden’s victory, Trump and his loyalists mounted a ferocious - and entirely unfounded - public messaging campaign aimed at convincing his supporters that the election had been “rigged” and stolen from him...
Wolff’s previous reporting about the Trump White House drew scrutiny after journalists and fact-checkers found that some of the details in his first book about the administration didn’t add up...
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/new-book-reveals-trump-s-grim-reaction-when-fox-news-called-arizona-for-biden-what-the-f/ar-AALYbtG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
The dem mayors and governors let their cities burn over complete garbage lies the summer before a presidential election, during a supposed pandemic and resultant self inflicted economic devastation that everyone wanted to recover from as quickly as possible.
Everyone knew it was going to be allowed to happen again if the wrong guy won. They were boarding up the windows two weeks before the election in case Trump was announced the winner. It worked for them, we will we see this again.
Freegards
Thanks for the ping, Jane.
The Tucker monologue reading the thread.
Cernovich
@Cernovich
Powerful
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1413678085682077696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
FR skipped this stage......we knew it was a scam from the get go.
I am not surprised that someone like Tucker would choose this piece to air nationwide. This was one of the most spot on summaries of where we are right now.
I don’t agree 100% with everything in that long “summary” but...pretty close.
Saving that.
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