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The birth certificate of the deep state - Wilson's Study of Administration
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Posted on 01/08/2022 3:44:57 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

The Study of Administration (1887), by Woodrow Wilson, sets the stage for the bureaucracies that would follow it a little over a dozen years after it's publication. Starting roughly in the 20th century, the progressive era saw the explosive growth of administrative agencies lacking any oversight whatsoever, a malady we suffer under to this day over 120 years later.

Unique among all generations of Americans before them, the progressives hated the United States Constitution, and Administration was their answer once and for all to get around this pesky obstacle we have all come to know and love.


TOPICS: History; Reference
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; bureaucracy; progressingamerica; progressivism; wilson

1 posted on 01/08/2022 3:44:57 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: Brick #1 in the yellow brick road.

2 posted on 01/08/2022 3:47:37 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I wish Teddy Roosevelt could have just let Taft have his second term. All his deficiencies in Roosevelt’s eyes are nothing compared to letting Wilson and his crew in.


3 posted on 01/08/2022 3:51:57 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Woodrow Wilson (pt.1) | Historians Who Changed History

Woodrow Wilson (pt.2) | Historians Who Changed History


4 posted on 01/08/2022 3:53:18 PM PST by Bratch
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Key to the Administrative State, is civil service protection.

If presidents had the power to fire and replace bureaucrats, the Deep State would have less power.


5 posted on 01/08/2022 3:55:54 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Dr. Sivana

As a staunch progressive, Roosevelt was interested in seeing the deep state grow. Wilson was obviously better for the role than Taft.

He even said as much in his own way.


6 posted on 01/08/2022 3:57:45 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

He certainly didn’t have problems advancing Commies.


7 posted on 01/08/2022 4:09:17 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SauronOfMordor

There’s a YouTube video about how American generals and admirals used to get fired and were largely successful but now that they don’t they’ve been generally less so.


8 posted on 01/08/2022 4:10:51 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Lincoln went through a few....


9 posted on 01/08/2022 4:13:54 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Another thing Wilson said...


10 posted on 01/08/2022 4:15:49 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Rurudyne

Bureaucrats (including in the military) build power by helping to promote allies and cripple careers of opponents, without regard to competence.

Purging incompetents and promoting only on merit would demolish carefully constructed power networks.


11 posted on 01/08/2022 4:20:45 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Exactly. They called it “the spoils system” as a perjorative. But the fact is that if anything in the administration sucked, voters had a way to root out -everything-.

Now we have the Prussian bureaucracy and we cannot change a thing, even by sending Trump to DC.


12 posted on 01/08/2022 4:23:34 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Rurudyne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxZWxxZ2JGE

This is that video about the Generals. Great video.


13 posted on 01/08/2022 4:25:18 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: C210N

I have no idea what that quote is about. However, I’m guessing that Wilson is not blasting his own policies, but is attacking some sort of financial industry that he has not been able to control.

Did some research. It is probably a fake quote, used to portray Wilson regretting his creation of the National Treasury. The quotes are a compilation from stuff he had said prior to 1913 and the Treasury Act.

He was referring to private banking having so much control.

Here’s the research:

https://www.kennethballard.com/?p=4743


14 posted on 01/08/2022 4:27:57 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Not a lot of people know that it was Wilson who really started the Administrative State.

The fedzilla had its start with Abraham Lincoln (yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln), who initiated the supremacy of the federal government over the states (i.e., the first real assault on the republican form of government as created by the Founders and enshrined in the Constitution). Woodrow Wilson picked up the baton and created the Administrative State. Then FDR put the federal government on steroids. Finally, LBJ put the nail in the coffin of the US as a constitutional republic. Subsequent presidents lowered the coffin into the ground. Now the Biden administration is tossing the dirt on that coffin.


15 posted on 01/08/2022 4:40:02 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: 21twelve

Good link, thanks for posting that.

More interesting than author Kenneth’s article are the various commenting critics, IMHO. Underlying the author’s debunking of the Wilson comments authenticity, it appears to me he is indeed naive to the shockingly diabolical nature of the FED, the IRS that feeds it, and the Banksters that own the whole shebang.

A good reckoning of the whole issue of FED creation would do well to address the circumstances of Jekyll Island and the Titanic.


16 posted on 01/08/2022 4:46:18 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Fedora

Bump


17 posted on 01/08/2022 4:55:37 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Imagine being able to set your own salary and those of your willing aides and co-conspirators.That's just one of the things that the Congresscritters who claim to “represent” us can do.
18 posted on 01/08/2022 5:50:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: DesertRhino

The MK14 torpedo … a study in why … just why…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5Ru7Zu_1I


19 posted on 01/09/2022 3:09:32 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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