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Why Progressives Are Wrong to Long for Danish Welfare | Opinion
Newsweek ^ | 12 January 2022 | JAMES HECKMAN

Posted on 01/12/2022 11:46:15 PM PST by blueplum

Democrats are doing their best to advance President Biden's $2 trillion "Build Back Better" agenda. The bill is being heralded as an engine of economic mobility for American families, and includes things like paid family leave and universal pre-K, which would be firsts for America.

In making the case for these programs, progressives often draw on the Danish welfare state for inspiration, with its low levels of income inequality and high levels of mobility in income across generations... Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a staunch supporter of Build Back Better, regularly points to Denmark as the model welfare state.

But Sanders and other progressive admirers of the Danish welfare state should note that despite generous policies, there is substantial inequality in child outcomes across social and economic classes in Denmark. Contrary to the views of progressives, despite the striking policy differences between Denmark and the U.S., these differences are not reflected in intergenerational educational mobility.....

... equality in access to public services does not guarantee equality of opportunity or equity, nor does it do anything about the fact that more advantaged families are better able to access and utilize programs, even when they are universally available...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: buildbackbetter; piedpiperpolitics; socialism; welfarestate
" equality in access to public services does not guarantee equality of opportunity or equity," James Heckman is a professor of Economics at the U of Chicago
1 posted on 01/12/2022 11:46:15 PM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Denmark taxed at 60% to pay for this welfare system. Try that here.


2 posted on 01/12/2022 11:53:43 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: griswold3

Sorry, forgot the VAT too


3 posted on 01/12/2022 11:54:12 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: blueplum

So Sweden’s not the model any more? Venezuela’s not the model any more?


4 posted on 01/13/2022 12:02:12 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: griswold3

I remember walking into a Danish grocery...around 2003 and here was the liquor area. A bottle of Jack Daniels would have cost around $15 in the US at the time (sales tax figured). Here was the same bottle (with the VAT already mixed into the price listed) for around $32 in local currency.


5 posted on 01/13/2022 12:49:20 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeeSharp

Someone break the news to Michael Moore and Sean Penn. Socialist states are always shining examples of economic justice to wealthy celebrities until they become dumpster fires. Then they go back to their drugs.


6 posted on 01/13/2022 1:10:06 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SeeSharp; griswold3

The Danish welfare model can work in small states, at the state level. Say in Vermont or New Hampshire.

Denmark has 5 million people in a flat land.

You can’t compare it to the whole of the USA.

Why not let one of the Democrat states experiment with it. People who like it an move there, others can move out.


7 posted on 01/13/2022 1:25:18 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Denmark isn’t socialist. There is capitalism strongly ingrained there.

But, as I said in my post above, we should have no problem with Vermont or new Hampshire trying this out at a state level.


8 posted on 01/13/2022 1:27:06 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: blueplum

What the author (and most Americans now) fails to admit is we can’t all be equal because we are not born that way. Genetics play a part, and yes so does parenting and environment.

Even within the same racial group you will have individuals born with more intelligence and drive, they will rise to the top. It’s biology.


9 posted on 01/13/2022 3:27:33 AM PST by Phoenix8 (:)
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To: griswold3; pepsionice

The real indication of the failure of the Scandinavian models is the negative birthrate for decades; those people are disappearing and have no choice but to import immigrants. The high costs of socialism always reflect in negative birthrates.


10 posted on 01/13/2022 3:53:32 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: blueplum

Dansk Folkeparti, a populist party with an anti-immigration platform managed to reach more than 20% of the vote in the 2015 national election.


11 posted on 01/13/2022 4:12:08 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Cronos
Denmark isn’t socialist"

Yes I know, but Democrats have a hard time telling the differences between socialism, welfare, and infrastructure. They just call it all socialism.
12 posted on 01/13/2022 4:23:25 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: pepsionice

We went to Denmark about 5 years ago.
We actually ended in rather scary neighborhood next to downtown Copenhagen. The hotel had a lot of rather strict security measures which could be justified only by high crime.
My wife and daughter were almost mugged. Luckily the attacker ran away when I showed up! Pretty scary.
I have been in a lot of places, but frankly, our Copenhagen experience was the scariest.
There were some nice place there too, but I was quite surprised to see that.


13 posted on 01/13/2022 5:46:10 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Cronos

How about the American Model, the one that begins with “We the People?”

Let’s give that one a try.


14 posted on 01/13/2022 3:54:17 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

At the state level yes. If some blue state wants to incorporate some welfare socialism, let them. That’s the point of the united STATEs — people will vote with their feet


15 posted on 01/17/2022 12:56:29 AM PST by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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