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Vanity - Help identify propellant in a target load
1/22/2022 | Kingludd

Posted on 01/22/2022 4:49:33 PM PST by KingLudd

Greetings. I'm trying to reverse engineer a 38 special factory load that works well in a S&W Mod 52 - Winchester 148 gr. Mid-range wadcutter target load. Specifically, I could use some help identifying the propellant. Charge weight in the factory round is 2.6 gr. Projectile is HBWC. About 710 fps. Powder is flattened ball powder with a grey/silver color. It might be a blend, but if anyone has any ideas of what brand this propellant this is, please PM me. Thank you.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; powder; reloading; vanity
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1 posted on 01/22/2022 4:49:33 PM PST by KingLudd
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2 posted on 01/22/2022 4:53:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s likely proprietary blend as you suggested. I got close with 2.8gr Bullseye under the same DEWC. Probably just slightly faster but not by much. Good luck!


3 posted on 01/22/2022 4:57:11 PM PST by paulcissa (Politicians want you unarmed so they can kill you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Kinda looks like Hodgdon Clays to me. Clays makes a decent pistol load and Hodgdon probably has a recipe on its website.


4 posted on 01/22/2022 5:00:19 PM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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5 posted on 01/22/2022 5:01:33 PM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

E. Pluribus Unum,
Thank you for rescuing my post by adding the photos.


6 posted on 01/22/2022 5:02:59 PM PST by KingLudd
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Weigh the charge out and look in reloading tables for loads that give similar velocities for that specific bullet. Reloading ables often say to reduce loads by 10% and work up a load. Different batches of same powder can be off by that far.
7 posted on 01/22/2022 5:03:24 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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NEVER reverse engineer something the way you are trying to do. Instead, look at various powders, bullet and powder manufacturer load data, and decide what loads would suffice for the performance you desire. Never think you can duplicate a recipe by looks. Work up your loads using known information, not looks. You will find many manufacturers use blended powders that you cannot get your hands on. They have additives you cannot sometimes buy and rarely detect.


8 posted on 01/22/2022 5:06:02 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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“I got close with 2.8gr Bullseye under the same DEWC.”

Thank you for the info.


9 posted on 01/22/2022 5:06:10 PM PST by KingLudd
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Looks a little like Unique to me, but I haven’t loaded wadcutters since the 80’s.


10 posted on 01/22/2022 5:06:35 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Good reply. Now what can I use .308 blank powder for?


11 posted on 01/22/2022 5:10:14 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Blanks.


12 posted on 01/22/2022 5:11:37 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Cold Heart

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13 posted on 01/22/2022 5:11:49 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Cold Heart

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To: Cold Heart

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15 posted on 01/22/2022 5:12:14 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Cold Heart

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16 posted on 01/22/2022 5:12:43 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Cold Heart

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17 posted on 01/22/2022 5:13:17 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Cold Heart

It’s really, really good for getting yourself in trouble. Blank powder is an explosive not a propellant.


18 posted on 01/22/2022 5:26:30 PM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch )
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To: Cold Heart
Now what can I use .308 blank powder for?

You can definitely use it to prove the age-old recommendation, to "never shoot another person's reloads"...

;>)

19 posted on 01/22/2022 5:37:34 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: KingLudd

Winchester WST will give about the same velocity with a 2.6 gr. charge under a 148 HBWC.
But, as others have suggested 2.7-2.8 grains of Bullseye will give very good accuracy. I tried HP-38 (which is the same as Winchester 231) and Bullseye was more accurate out of my revolvers.


20 posted on 01/22/2022 5:51:36 PM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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