Posted on 02/16/2022 9:36:04 AM PST by norsky
EV Charging Insanity
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
Used Car Market
The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000 so there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying to sell your used green fairy tale electric car!
This is not the exact same article but it pretty much says the same thing
Bryan Leyland: Things you know that ain't so - electric cars
The greenest way to charge cars is with solar power.
The sun shines during the daytime.
Each car will hopefully be parked where its owner has a job and works.
Each workplace will typically already have parking space associated with it. Commercial building operators will arrange for charging facilities, often as contracted with employers.
“In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service”
Nonsense. How many people have their own filling station at home?
99% of the time EVs will be charged at home or at work. Vastly less demand for filling stations.
A 300-mile range battery system may cost $10,000.
A 30-mile range single battery pack may cost $1,000.
From the 4,800 SHP T-55 gas turbine in a Chinook to my 5.3L GMC V-8 in my truck - gotta’ love petroleum!
When it's not raining, or just overcast, or snowing...which is a good half of the year....
Big Power & Light is pleased to be in the battery leasing business.
A $1,000 battery pack will cost you about $16/month on your electric bill and get you about 30 miles in range.
Need more range? Get another battery pack! Each additional one is only $14/month.
...an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers ...
Technically-illiterate editors.
that, and the taxpayers would foot the bill...
And charging at a very slow rate.
People are thinking that there will be IC Engine cars for sale alongside the EVs. There won’t be any. All the manufacturers are going full hog into EV only production. No IC Engines will be produced. None. You will eventually have no choice, even used IC cars will be gone. Gasoline stations will begin to convert to EV charging stations and gasoline will become hard to find if at all...............................
From the article:
A standard 10 amp socket will give an 80% recharge to a 90 kWh Tesla Model S in 10 hours.
2.3 kilowatts for 10 hours is 23 kWh, leading to a 25% recharge, not 80% recharge.
And more demand for coal, diesel, lithium. Did you not read what the author stated? (In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes.) Charging stations or home charging same thing. Wait for the battery powered scrapers and snow removal equipment to clear the roads in a short time. All the tractor trailers waiting to charge, you think we have supply chain issues now. Just my opinion.
“a good half of the year”
And the typical commute will be about a good tenth of a typical vehicle’s ~300 mile range.
Ringy, dingy!
Hey buddy, it’s going to cloudy all day Wednesday and Thursday, plug me in today or tomorrow or you might have less than 50 miles of range Thursday afternoon based on your typical driving patterns, Tess!
Electric rates are cheaper today, buddy!
The article you linked is from 2016.
“The greenest way to charge cars is with solar power.”
How many square feet of solar panel would you need to charge a car in 8 hours?
Another thing. The article said a typical EV would need three new batteries in its average 12-year lifetime. I saw that Tesla has or will have a 500,000 mile battery. That sounds pretty good.
plus not all parking lots are open air
So, for example, you're imagining multi-story apartment complexes with charging stations in front of each parking space?
There's no telling how many thousands it would cost to refit my condo parking area with a recharging station.
Suddenly the ol' horse-and-buggy isn't looking so bad!
Unless you park your car for a week or two, your car doesn’t have enough surface area to charge via solar power.
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