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2013: Lenin’s tomb should stay in Red Square, Putin says
WaPo ^ | 2013 | Michael Birnbaum

Posted on 02/24/2022 4:06:30 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

MOSCOW — Vladimir Lenin’s embalmed body has been on display in Red Square since 1924. Now another influential Vladi­mir has made clear that Lenin’s tomb isn’t going anywhere else.

Russian President Vladimir Putin recently found time in his busy schedule — to compare Lenin’s polished granite mausoleum to the relics of saints on display in Orthodox monasteries.

“The communists continued the tradition,” Putin said of Lenin’s preservation, “and did it competently, in accordance with the demands of those times.”

“We must return to our historic roots,” he said, with “traditional values.”

The remarks, made last month during an interview with several prominent supporters, came alongside other proposals to revive symbolic elements of the old Soviet system, including bringing back a workers’ medal awarded to particularly industrious laborers.

Analysts say the turn toward Soviet symbolism is intended to shore up support from those who felt neglected by several years of market-oriented economic reforms under President Dmitri Medvedev, who handed the office back to Putin in the spring.

For Putin “the priority of a strong state over the interests of individuals is important,” said Dmitri Oreshkin, a political commentator.

A growing number of Russians (including Putin’s culture minister, Vladi­mir Medinsky) have said the tomb should be done away with. A 2011 poll by the Levada Center, an independent polling institute, showed 40 percent of Russians in favor of burying Lenin.

But Russia’s still-active Communist Party says that keeping Lenin in the Red Square is only natural.

Moving him would be a “barbaric act,” said Dmitri Novikov, the party’s ideologist.

“We Communists can say that this is our victory,” he said. “Despite anti-Soviet hysterics, in many ways the position and the opinion of society is that we should go back to Soviet heritage and restore values.”

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: cccp; communism; lenin; putin; putinacommie; russia; sovietunion; ukraine; ussr
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1 posted on 02/24/2022 4:06:30 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The mans been dead for 98 years. He stinks. Bury his rotting corpse. Better yet cremate it.


2 posted on 02/24/2022 4:08:26 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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3 posted on 02/24/2022 4:08:49 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Good one.


4 posted on 02/24/2022 4:12:16 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Magnum44

I have no problem with it for the same reason I believe the Confederate Statues shouldn’t be taken down, regardless of my personal feelings about the Confederacy. It’s a part of their history, some people still choose to revere it.


5 posted on 02/24/2022 4:12:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I agree with you 100%.


6 posted on 02/24/2022 4:27:29 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
"Where Lenin lies, the red flag flies, and the rat-grey workers wait
To tread the gloom of Lenin's tomb, where the Comrade lies in state
With lagging pace they scan his face, so weary yet so firm
For years a score they've laboured sore to save him from the worm.
The Kremlin walls are grimly grey, but Lenin's Tomb is red,
And pilgrims from the Sour Lands say: "He sleeps and is not dead."
Before their eyes in peace he lies, a symbol and a sign,
And as they pass that dome of glass they see - a God Divine.
So Doctors plug him full of dope, for if he drops to dust,
So will collapse their faith and hope, the whole combine will bust.
But say, Tovarich; hark to me . . . a secret I'll disclose,
For I did see what none did see; I know what no one knows..."
7 posted on 02/24/2022 4:33:33 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I thought the dang corpse was growing mushrooms on it? And that was years ago.


8 posted on 02/24/2022 4:47:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Evil commie bastards love their fellow travellers.


9 posted on 02/24/2022 4:56:39 PM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

🎵Give us dirty Lenin.🎵


10 posted on 02/24/2022 5:02:22 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Seattle and Portland were 2nd and 3rd choice…


11 posted on 02/24/2022 5:03:07 PM PST by Hypo2
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
In the early days of the revolution, starting with the 1918 dethroning of Nicolas, Russia had the means, inclination and momentum to develop a "soft" socialist form of government.

A charming but vengeful and power-hungry Lenin, however, took it to the hard left by duplicity and brutal, unchecked physical force. His chosen #2, a petty street thug eventually known as Stalin, quickly took over after Lenin died of a stroke.

Modern day Russia would be well served by not promoting Lenin as an example of its traditional values. Anyone who does, for instance Putin, says a lot about their views on freedom.

12 posted on 02/24/2022 5:06:12 PM PST by frog in a pot (Are your local grocery store shelves better stocked today than they were under Trump?)
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I have no problem with it for the same reason I believe the Confederate Statues shouldn’t be taken down, regardless of my personal feelings about the Confederacy. It’s a part of their history, some people still choose to revere it.

I wouldn't compare Bolsheviks to the CSA.

Honoring Lenin is no different than if the Germans continued to honor Hitler.

13 posted on 02/24/2022 5:06:47 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: dfwgator

I’m fine with that, except it’s a rotting corpse, not a statue. There is something morbid and creepy about keeping him on display.


14 posted on 02/24/2022 5:08:58 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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Displaying Lenin’s body is like displaying the relics of the saints? I know that’s what the Communists had in mind, but for Putin, an alleged Orthodox Christian, to support that reasoning is more than a little bizarre. The Patriarch of Moscow, or even a humble priest, should set him straight on that. I have seen the largely-uncorrupted bodies of saints. The condition of their relics is seen as a sign from God of their holiness. The body of the murdering tyrant Lenin, if there is much of the real Lenin still there, is preserved by waxwork artists.


15 posted on 02/24/2022 5:29:33 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Put it in DC..it would be just as revered.


16 posted on 02/24/2022 5:30:19 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: dfwgator
I have no problem with it for the same reason I believe the Confederate Statues shouldn’t be taken down,

An interesting analogy. I understand Putin is looking for continuity and social stability - no "cancel culture."

Maybe they could have a proper Orthodox Christian ceremony on a tuesday morning, pray for the repose of Lenin's soul, so as to shift the focus. Then bury him in a mauseleum in the suburbs no one will go to. Respectful, but begin to reduce his cult.

17 posted on 02/24/2022 6:02:01 PM PST by PGR88
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How many naive Commie tourists from around the globe come to Moscow to visit the tomb? Hey, it’s Capitalism, baby!


18 posted on 02/24/2022 6:02:58 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Should become a dunghill.


19 posted on 02/24/2022 7:16:50 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: dfwgator

I have no problem with it for the same reason I believe the Confederate Statues shouldn’t be taken down, regardless of my personal feelings about the Confederacy. It’s a part of their history, some people still choose to revere it.

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I agree. Good, bad or indifferent; history should not be erased.


20 posted on 02/25/2022 8:56:20 PM PST by just Grace
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