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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Democrats didn't invade Ukraine. Russia did. Nobody made them do it.

More importantly, virtually nobody expected Ukraine to put up anything close to the fight they've put up. The overwhelming expectation -- pushed by the vaunted Colonel Douglas McGregor among many others Putin sycophants -- was that Ukraine would get stomped in very short order, Putin would annex whichever parts of the country he wanted, and that would be it. Rather than the invasion leading to "regime change" in Moscow, the expectation was that this invasion would lead to the collapse of an impotent NATO, and would greatly strengthen Putin's position in Russia.

That reality pretty much trashes the claim that the invasion was all part of some Democrat plot for regime change in Moscow, rather than Putin just being a megalomaniacal douchenozzle.

7 posted on 05/06/2022 7:03:49 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (Sounds like a lot of malarkey to bewhat is this )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

It is clear that the west provoked Putin to invade. The current head of the CIA wrote the “Nyet means Nyet” memo in 2008 while the ambassador. They knew that attempts to bring Georgia or Ukraine into NATO would 100% certainly provoke Russia to invade. This is why they ramped up the NATO talk as soon as Biden took office.

If I told you... “Don’t scream at me or I will punch you with 100% certainty. I am not bluffing. I will punch you if you scream at me.”...and then you screamed at me, you would intentionally be provoking me to punch you. It doesn’t mean that I would be right. It doesn’t mean that I was justified. But it would mean that you knew the consequences of your actions and chose to do it anyway.

With that being said, the Democrats AND the Republicans supported the coup in 2014, courted the Ukraine leaders to join NATO and precipitated this war for the BILLIONS of dollars they have funneled to the charities (Clinton Foundation) and weapons manufacturers because that money gets funneled back to them.

The outcome has been devastating. Hundreds of thousands will die needlessly. Russia would have been able to take and hold territory if Ukraine wasn’t playing the dangerous game of using US intelligence and special operators. I just really hope that Russia is never able to prove it because the consequences for Ukraine and the US will then be magnified 10 fold. Of course, when I say “the US” I am referring to the middle class and our service members. The billionaires and the political class will just end up making even more money.


17 posted on 05/06/2022 7:31:28 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
More importantly, virtually nobody expected Ukraine to put up anything close to the fight they've put up.

Are you really that stupid, or just that sleazy?

Ukraine has no weapons.

All their weapons are coming from the USA and NATO.

It's a proxy war, but you are just too sleazy to acknowledge it.

24 posted on 05/06/2022 7:41:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

They are opportunists. The war may not have been started by them but that doesnt mean they cant use it for other purposes.


34 posted on 05/06/2022 7:59:24 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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