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Woodrow Wilson "The Third Party" Speech (1912) [AUDIO RESTORED]
YouTube ^ | September 24, 1912 | Woodrow Wilson

Posted on 06/08/2022 9:23:25 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

There is a new party, which it is difficult to characterize because it is made up of several elements. As I see it, it is made up three elements in particular. The first consists of those Republicans whose consciences and whose stomachs could not stand what the regular Republicans were doing. Added to this element are a great many men and women of noble character and of elevated purpose who believe that this combination of forces may, in the future, bring them out on a plane where they can accomplish those things which their hearts have so long desired.

I have no word of criticism for them. Then there is a third element in the new party of which the less said the better. To discuss it would be interesting, only if I could mention names, and I have forbidden myself that indulgence. We have in this party two things. A political party and a body of social reformers. Mr. Roosevelt puts forth an admirable platform of what he would like to do for the people. But how is he going to do it? He proposes in his platform not to abolish monopoly, but to take it under the legal protection of the government and to regulate it. In other words, to take the very men into partnership who have been making it impossible to carry out these great programs by which all of us wish to help the people.

It is perfectly idle to talk of doing things when your hands are tied for you, so long as the men who now control the industry of the country continue to control it. Now we don’t want to disturb the industry of the country; we are not here to destroy the industry which these men have developed. But we are here to destroy the control over the industry of other people which these men have established and which makes it impossible that we should give ourselves a free hand in the service of the people. There are two programs. The Democratic program is this – to see to it that competition is so regulated that the big fellow cannot put the little fellow out of business, for he has been putting the little fellow out of business for the last half generation.

The program of the third party is to take these big fellows that have been putting the little fellow out of business and regulate them, saying, "that is all right--you have put the other fellows out of business--but we are not going to put the little fellows back where you destroyed them. We’re going to adopt you and say run the business of the country, but run it in the way we tell you to run it." The only thing you have to choose between therefore is this: Are you going to have fresh brains injected into the business of this country and the best men win, or are you going to make the present combinations permanent.


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KEYWORDS: progressivism; roosevelt; tr; wilson
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This is interesting, he is calling out Theodore Roosevelt's Bull Moose party as a party of socialism and centralized planning. Once President though, Wilson carried out the Bull Moose program.
1 posted on 06/08/2022 9:23:25 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica

You can thank Wilson for direct election of senators, income taxes, and a plethora of other progressive causes. Wilson did more to harm the nation than practically any other president.


2 posted on 06/08/2022 9:26:21 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ebshumidors; nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; ...
If anybody wants on/off the revolutionary progressivism ping list, send me a message

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: Progressivism hasn't changed much in substance. Only the window dressing is more colorful.

3 posted on 06/08/2022 9:26:43 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: DugwayDuke

All if the items you listed are the fault of Theodore Roosevelt and Taft, not Wilson.

Wilson was a monster, that’s definitely true. But we simply look foolish blaming the wrong progressive.


4 posted on 06/08/2022 9:27:46 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

One progressive accusing another progressive of the things that all progressives intend to do.


5 posted on 06/08/2022 9:32:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Wilson may actually be *the* worst president in American history. A flat out racist, he segregated blacks within Federal positions, thus ensuring a two-tier system would be perpetuated. He promised no involvement in WW1, then got us into WW1, then proceeded to outlaw any speech or protest by anyone opposed to the war. He then orchestrated the disastrous League of Nations, a precursor to one-world government and the UN. An institution which crippled Germany and ultimately pushed that country toward Hitler and WW2.


6 posted on 06/08/2022 9:33:25 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

By “men and women of noble character and of elevated purpose who believe they can accomplish those things which their hearts have so long desire,” Wilson is referring to his fellow pinkos.

And there is nothing “noble” or “elevated” about them.


7 posted on 06/08/2022 9:34:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Evil man.


8 posted on 06/08/2022 9:34:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DugwayDuke

9 posted on 06/08/2022 9:35:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Flick Lives

Great synopsis.

Wilson was pure evil and the worst president in history (so far).


10 posted on 06/08/2022 9:38:06 AM PDT by Reddy ( B.O. stinks)
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To: Flick Lives

AND The Sedition Act curtailing free speech.


11 posted on 06/08/2022 9:43:51 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: ProgressingAmerica
This is interesting, he is calling out Theodore Roosevelt's Bull Moose party as a party of socialism and centralized planning. Once President though, Wilson carried out the Bull Moose program.

Are you sure that Wilson wasn't calling out T.R. for not being left-authoritarian enough? I'm not a historian, but that's how it reads to me. (And consider how Wilson's presidency turned out...)
12 posted on 06/08/2022 9:45:12 AM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: Flick Lives

So it appears Biden has been following in his foot steps.


13 posted on 06/08/2022 9:47:05 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: DugwayDuke

On direct Senator elections....this goes back to the magazine Harper’s Weekly, which made a continual ‘talk’ for months about the corruption going on in various state capitals, and how ‘promises’ were made to get so-and-so a Senate job. Nationally, that news magazine pumped up the topic and it was pretty easy to get this focused as a Constitutional item.


14 posted on 06/08/2022 9:55:47 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: DugwayDuke
You can thank Wilson for direct election of senators, income taxes, and a plethora of other progressive causes. Wilson did more to harm the nation than practically any other president.

Read the US Constitution. The president has no role in amending the it. He may have strongly supported the 16th and 17th amendments, but he had no role in their passage. You can blame 2/3'rds of the members of both the House and Senate plus the 3/4'ths of the state legislatures for that.

15 posted on 06/08/2022 10:05:42 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Flick Lives
"...the UN. An institution which crippled Germany and ultimately pushed that country toward Hitler and WW2."

While I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of Woodrow Wilson, I respectfully disagree with your reason for the cause of WW2. The reason Germany started WW2 (not counting the Japanese portion in 1937) is because not enough German citizens died in the prior WW1 Germany made. The reason Germany used Ferdinand's assassinations to make the temporary face-saving battles into a big WW1 is because not enough Germans (Prussians) died in the prior Franco-Prussian war Prussia started.

The reason Germany hasn't started WW3 is because in the WW2 Germany started, over 6 million German citizens were killed. In other words, for the first time Germany's opponents brought the horrors of war to Germany. That's the only thing that stops a war mongering culture hell bent on killing masses of civilians.

16 posted on 06/08/2022 10:13:04 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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"Wilson may actually be was *the* worst president in American history."

Fixed it for ya.

Without a doubt.

17 posted on 06/08/2022 10:16:48 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: DugwayDuke
You can thank Wilson for direct election of senators, income taxes, and a plethora of other progressive causes. Wilson did more to harm the nation than practically any other president.

You can indirectly thank Teddy for challenging Taft because Taft wasn't "progressive" enough, thereby helping to elect Wilson.

18 posted on 06/08/2022 10:18:11 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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Teddy would have been a hell of a lot better than Wilson. Seems like anyone who goes after the GOP gets taken down and replaced by a real progressive and a stooge for inner circle/ deep state. Yes, they had that problem back then too. The GOP track record. They hated Teddy, Reagan, Trump and worked to undermine all of them.


19 posted on 06/08/2022 11:29:50 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Bkmk


20 posted on 06/08/2022 11:52:46 AM PDT by sauropod (What we’re living through is not an unintentional accident: it’s the American Holodomor.)
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