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This Army general wants leaders to stop texting their soldiers so damn much
Task & Purpose ^ | June 9, 2022 | Paul Szoldra

Posted on 06/10/2022 4:08:26 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

The commanding general of the 10th Mountain Division wants late-night texts from leaders to subordinates to stop.

“The overuse and reliance on cell phones causes unforeseen stress on soldiers and families,” reads a policy letter recently shared on Twitter by Gen. Milford H. Beagle Jr., who said it was the official cell phone policy for the division and was designed to “prevent soldiers from being led by text.”

“Change is a constant around us, but not all change needs to be communicated via text, chat groups, or other messaging applications,” Beagle wrote in the letter he posted Tuesday. “The constant need to be tethered to one’s phone for work-related information serves to keep soldiers and leaders on edge, unable to function without the fear of missing something.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; excess; military; smartphones; texting
I can see how the CG can be spot on with this, imagine having a work-a-holic boss that would run his subordinates over with a truck to further his career.
1 posted on 06/10/2022 4:08:26 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s a good start. But it doesn’t go far enough. The thing about basketball and tickets bothers me. There is still no reason that needs to be on personal phones and will still be used by an overbearing supervisor against lower ranks.

The bigger problem is this soldiers with a government phone. I have one from DoD. They expect you to have it always at the ready. I’d wager more BS text and emails get sent on that one Va personal.


2 posted on 06/10/2022 4:18:23 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Good idea, but I get calls all day and night in private industry


3 posted on 06/10/2022 4:27:21 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Imagine being on a field exercise and having to constantly check your phone to see if your CO has texted you.

Good move by this general.

4 posted on 06/10/2022 4:47:25 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
If we are to believe reports, the Ukrainians have used Russian cell phone geolocators to attack with great effect.

I'd hate for such capability in the hands of an American enemy.

Far from being considered part of a soldier's kit, cell phones should be left on base prior to deployment.

5 posted on 06/10/2022 4:53:07 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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This Army general wants leaders to stop texting their soldiers so damn much

I'm surprised that General Beagle issued a policy letter instead of just texting his subordinates about over-texting.

6 posted on 06/10/2022 5:04:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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True he issued a policy letter....but I found humor in this: recently shared on Twitter by Gen. Milford H. Beagle Jr.,
7 posted on 06/10/2022 5:12:01 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Additionally, cellphone technology is not reliable, and can be intercepted by bad guys.

Reasons enough right there to not use it for MIL purposes.


8 posted on 06/10/2022 5:21:39 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: William of Barsoom

Right. Imagine the enemy, posing as leaders, giving false text orders in battle.


9 posted on 06/10/2022 6:22:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Gen. Milford H. Beagle Jr.

Perfect name for a M*A*S*H character.

10 posted on 06/10/2022 6:24:22 AM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Are our military members now issued cell phones? If not, are they required to own one?


11 posted on 06/10/2022 6:34:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The more you sweat in traing, the less you bleed in battle.

You must train for battle at all times. If you communicate by cellphone (radio) then you do not develop the necessary personalized and face to face communications you WILL use in battle.

Where I worked in the State Department, we had to leave our phones outside the sciff. The Russians are learning, with the loss of their leaders in the field, that cellar com’s are not secure. Even the State Department Blackberry Secure program was contingent upon the end user not being Hillary Clinton.


12 posted on 06/10/2022 6:56:43 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: JennysCool
General Beagle deals with issues directly.

13 posted on 06/10/2022 7:01:22 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Graybeard58
Are our military members now issued cell phones? If not, are they required to own one?

My guess is officers and senior enlisted are given cell phones if they need it for their job. A private phone isn't going to be allowed access to a secure network...

14 posted on 06/10/2022 7:44:55 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I wish good luck to the CG, but I doubt that it improves. Back before cell phones, I came back from my assumption of command to find the post signal guys installing my “bat phone” in our bedroom. I asked them to install it in my little study (really a closet), but they told me, sorry, the CG wants it to be next to your bed. At another post with a different CG, I got out of the shuttle from the airport and my wife shouted from the house telling me that the CG was on the phone. I had attended a meeting in the Pentagon and he expected an immediate report. I failed to meet his expectations. I imagine that things have only gotten worse over time.


15 posted on 06/10/2022 10:54:15 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Alas Babylon!

...something that even in plain text we have some procedures to prevent. (”Authentication Tables.” Stone age, but workable.)

The larger problem is intel gained from intercept and analysis.

“AC” is having trouble with their water plant.
Revealed who “AC” was. (Pacific WW2)


16 posted on 06/10/2022 11:29:32 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Nothing worse than getting a text that says: “Duck!” or “Incoming!”


17 posted on 06/10/2022 12:18:40 PM PDT by SuperLuminal
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To: William of Barsoom

OPSEC always...


18 posted on 06/10/2022 12:25:14 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Graybeard58
Last I knew you have an official phone that is to be on you at all time in case of emergency.

Such as "We are at war, report to your duty station at once" not "everybody remember the raffle tomorrow".

The problem is that vital communication can be lost when the majority of it is pure noise.

19 posted on 06/10/2022 12:27:12 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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There should be no cell phones allowed while on-duty. Period. Let the REMF’s play with their phones all day, I would not want my squadmates playing doodlejump or texting their GF while theres deadly serious business to do


20 posted on 06/10/2022 12:30:26 PM PDT by jpp113
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