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Regime Propaganda, Ray Epps, and the New York Times
American Greatness ^ | 16 Jul, 2022 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 07/17/2022 5:02:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 07/17/2022 5:02:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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If there is a lawsuit, then the discovery would be interesting.


2 posted on 07/17/2022 5:02:19 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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BTTT


3 posted on 07/17/2022 5:09:34 AM PDT by nopardons
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The closer you get to January, and a Republican-controlled House...I think Ray will get antsy and just disappear (maybe to Costa Rica or Panama).


4 posted on 07/17/2022 5:23:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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I'm not too clear how Ray Epps has became a focal point. I get that he is on tape urging people to storm the Capitol - but he's no unicorn in that respect.

Here's Guy Reffitt who also incited the mob.

Or Robert Palmer.

The list goes on and on. What makes Ray Epps special? It just seems like an attempt to make believe that there wasn't really a limited number of violent MAGA people out there on 1/6. Which is silly. Out of 70M Trump voters, maybe 1-2,000 stormed the Capitol. That means a tiny fraction of Trump voters, or more properly, people with mental problems, were involved.

Instead of coming up with outlandish conspiracies, better to just state the obvious - that they are a tiny fraction and don't represent the movement.
5 posted on 07/17/2022 5:41:20 AM PDT by Observator
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They don’t want people to believe their own eyes and ears. “Believe only what we tell you is true, and trust only us.” That should be the motto of the NYT.


6 posted on 07/17/2022 6:04:51 AM PDT by euram
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Someone on another thread, made a long list of all the LIES, that the New York Times has been giving us. The long list of 52 FBI and CIA agents that swore there was NO Hunter Biden Laptop, or that NO FRAUD occurred the night with Joe Bidens psuedo win.
Now I have had to go way back in my files, and wonder how many OTHER things they have told us, we actually believed. I am starting to wonder if the Earth is Round, as now they publish that a man CAN have a baby. They probably made up things about the JFK execution, as well as the TWA 800 flight. Or the moon landing, or even the Twin Towers.
We are in a HAZE, in a FOG. We need accurate reporting and it SURE isn;t the New York Times.


7 posted on 07/17/2022 6:20:25 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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The closer you get to January, and a Republican-controlled House...I think Ray will get antsy and just disappear (maybe to Costa Rica or Panama).

More likely, IMHO, that he'll get disappeared, as in arkancided.

8 posted on 07/17/2022 6:26:01 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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“maybe 1-2,000 stormed the Capitol”

I think it was far fewer than that. Maybe 100-200 that pushed through the barricades and climbed the facade. Everyone else just walked in like tourists.

9 posted on 07/17/2022 6:29:09 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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Someone on another thread, made a long list of all the LIES, that the New York Times has been giving us. The long list of 52 FBI and CIA agents that swore there was NO Hunter Biden Laptop, or that NO FRAUD occurred the night with Joe Bidens psuedo win.

If you run across that list again, can you repost it and copy me, or just pm me. I would love to have it to share with some friends. Thanks!

10 posted on 07/17/2022 6:31:08 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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Welcome to the forums.


11 posted on 07/17/2022 6:37:46 AM PDT by healy61
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Instead of coming up with outlandish conspiracies

Like Epps on video encouraging people to storm the capital but is not rotting in jail. What, is he a fellow agent?


12 posted on 07/17/2022 6:45:56 AM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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Bttt.

5.56mm


13 posted on 07/17/2022 6:47:14 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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If there is a lawsuit, then the discovery would be interesting.

Would love to see Ashley Babbitt’s family attorney figure out a lawsuit to file against him for instigating her death…

14 posted on 07/17/2022 6:56:51 AM PDT by Magnatron
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I suggest actually reading the posted article, several times if you are still “unclear”.

Some of us are extremely unhappy at the thought that our own government, or political operatives in a parallel orbit, uses provocateurs to create crime. This has been shown repeatedly to be a government methodology of choice. When applied to politics, it makes a mockery of Democracy and threatens whatever is left of our Republic.

“Going into the Capitol” is the basis for calling Jan 6th an “insurrection” and thus for holding a show trial. Ray Epps is well documented inciting the J6 mob to “Go into the Capitol”, i.e., to pass the protections of legal “protest” to enter the realm of “crime”, in this case potentially very serious crime.

When someone inciting criminal behavior that subequently takes place is neither arrested, nor questioned, and his “most-wanted” pics are erased from FBI websites, and Congressional Inquisitors have zero interest in him, do you suspect that individual just a little bit?

How does the presence of other agitators give Ray Epps a pass? There were possibly many agitators, some working together, some with no knowledge of each other, and some at cross purposes. By all means get to the bottom of what all of them were up to, and who put them up to it.

How exactly would fully explaining the activities and connections of Ray Epps change the known quantity of those who rioted or entered the Capitol?


15 posted on 07/17/2022 6:57:08 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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“aromatic aria” BKMRK


16 posted on 07/17/2022 7:02:05 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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what’s your pay grade?


17 posted on 07/17/2022 7:49:40 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up.....)
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Theories that postulate a Conspiracy are sometimes plausible and sometimes not. It’s not plausible that Trump was conspiring to overthrow the capital. It is plausible that Leftists conspired to slander him about it.


18 posted on 07/17/2022 8:32:42 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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There is more than Ray Epps that suggests that it was in part a setup. There was refusal to provide adequate security. The video showing protesters intentionally let into the building by capital guards. The video of the murder of Ashli Babit and the breathless reports in media in its wake that the protesters were armed and shooting. There was the later absurd exhoneration of the officer who murdered her. There were the lies about the guard killed by the fire extinguisher. There was the video of the beat down of a woman on the ground with sticks in an apparent attempt to provoke protesters into a confrontation to protect her. There was the recent exposed FBI plot to convince a militia group to kidnap a Govenor.


19 posted on 07/17/2022 8:50:52 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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what’s your pay grade?

LOL - just goes to show how different reality is from person to person. I have to say that the vast majority of people who are even semi-informed would think that trying to pin the Capitol riot on some low-level guy named Ray Epps is the one who should be receiving pay for propaganda.
20 posted on 07/17/2022 10:12:47 AM PDT by Observator
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