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Have Scholars Finally Deciphered a Mysterious Ancient Script?
smithsonianmag ^ | Andrew Lawler

Posted on 08/02/2022 10:12:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: dljordan

I think it says STAY AWAY FROM MONKEYS


21 posted on 08/02/2022 11:04:30 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: BenLurkin

There once was a hermit named Dave..........


22 posted on 08/02/2022 11:09:07 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Flick Lives
The Linear Elamite symbols are very different from Linear A and Linear B symbols.

Elamite speakers are mentioned in Acts 2.9.

23 posted on 08/02/2022 11:10:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: BenLurkin

A society having its own script, different from neighbors, would have been part of protecting cultural identity.

An ancient Korean king had a group of scholars create the Korean script, which is a phonetic alphabet designed to be able to match all the sounds in the spoken Korean language. He was working at divorcing Korea from Chinese influence, so he wanted to throw out the use of written Chinese. Once that project was completed he then had a Korean observatory built, had the moon stars and planets plotted in reference to Korea and had a whole astrologocal chart and cAlendar devised, to replace the use of the system borrowed from the Chinese. In the historical record of all this you find the Korean scholarly class up in arms over the king’s
Korea-first cultural projects. There was even rebellion against the king considered. Entrenched elite classes are the same everywhere and in all time peruods - trying to protect their self interest in their own incumbancy.

Being a phonetic alphabet and not 3,000 or so ideograms, and with the Korean script required for all schools to use it and adults get educated with it, in less than generation literacy and writing boomed in Korea. Japan would have been better off if they had either adopted the Korean script or made one of their own.


24 posted on 08/02/2022 11:13:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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25 posted on 08/02/2022 11:26:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BenLurkin

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26 posted on 08/02/2022 11:32:54 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: BenLurkin

Elamites actually conquered Mesopotamia and ruled it for a short time, but they spoke a Indo-European language entirely foreign to the people of the area, as evidenced by the names of their rulers that the Mesopotamians recorded in their king lists.


27 posted on 08/02/2022 11:34:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Flick Lives

No, they are entirely different writings systems. The languages they were used to represent are probably distantly related though.


28 posted on 08/02/2022 11:35:13 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ozarkgirl

It says they were “royal inscriptions” so I imagine they are praising the exploits of whatever Grand Poobah was ruling at the time.


29 posted on 08/02/2022 11:36:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Flick Lives

Usually the problem is that for some languages, we have too small of a sample size for computer analysis to accomplish much.


30 posted on 08/02/2022 11:37:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Flick Lives
Yes. The real problem is that the further back you go the more languages you find that have no living descendants, and the fewer the written attestations, the harder it is to reconstruct with no parallel languages to look at. Linear A is a good example. Even with the Linear B links to Mycenean Greek sounds, we can't reconstruct the language.

Even with PIE, we can reconstruct that based on its numerous descendants, but with no intermediate forms living or attested in ancient literature, we can't trace its relation to other language groups because there are too many possible sound change permutations to be able to do more than guess about PIE's links to the Semitic or Turkic language groups.

31 posted on 08/02/2022 11:40:07 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: BenLurkin

Send more Chuck Barry


32 posted on 08/02/2022 11:46:44 AM PDT by The Louiswu (If your child requires validation from Chuck E. Cheese you have failed as a parent. )
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https://www.livius.org/category/elam/


33 posted on 08/02/2022 12:00:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

34 posted on 08/02/2022 12:01:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: pierrem15

Interesting stuff.

I think I was confused by the term “linear” thinking it was some family of writing. In a very loose way, I guess it is. Looking up the definition I see “linear” seems to refer to a writing composed of simple lines as opposed to a more pictographic form. Although it’s interesting as I remember one of the stumbling blocks to deciphering hieroglyphics is people thought each symbol was a word instead of a sound. So although pictographic looking, the “picture” was only a sound and not a representation of a thing.


35 posted on 08/02/2022 12:19:07 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: BenLurkin

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36 posted on 08/02/2022 1:11:29 PM PDT by Adder (Dumblecrats: Spending $$ we don't have on crap we don't need for people who pay no taxes.)
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To: BenLurkin

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37 posted on 08/02/2022 2:52:21 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: SunkenCiv

THE KING OF THE ELAMITES!....................

38 posted on 08/03/2022 5:41:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
The name "Chedorlaomer" has long been the subject of controversy, that has increased, rather than diminished, since the discovery of native Elamite and Babylonian documents. The first clue to an identification of the name is found in the fact, everywhere now regarded as established, that the name is a correct Elamite compound. Its first half, "Chedor" (= "Kudur," "servant of," or "worshiper of"), is found frequently in Elamite proper names, such as "Kudur-nanḥundi" ("naḥunte" in Susian or Elamite) and "Kudurmabuk." The latter half of the name, "la'omer," (= "lagamaru"), is the name of an Elamite deity, mentioned by Assurbanipal.
Chedorlaomer | Jewish Encyclopedia | Morris Jastrow, Jr., Robert W. Rogers

39 posted on 08/03/2022 6:45:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds cheesy....................


40 posted on 08/03/2022 6:50:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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