ANOTHER BATTLE WEEK: Defeat of the Rebels on the Bull-Run Battle-Ground; Our Losses Not Less than Eight Thousand (9/1/1862)

New York Times - Times Machine ^ | 9/1/1862

[Homer_J_Simpson]

GROVETON NEAR GAINESVILLE, Aug. 30, 1862.

To Major-Gen. Halleck, General-in-Chief, Washington, D.C.:

We fought a terrific battle here yesterday, with the combined forces of the enemy, which lasted with continuous fury from daylight until after dark, by which time the enemy was driven from the field, which we now occupy.

Our troops are too much exhausted to push matters, but I shall do so in the course of the morning, as soon as FITZ-JOHN PORTER's corps come up from Manassas.

The enemy is still in our front, but badly used up.

We have lost not less than eight thousand men killed and wounded, and from the appearance of the field, the enemy have lost at least two to our one. He stood strictly on the defensive, and every assault was made by ourselves.

Our troops have behaved splendidly.

The battle was fought on the identical battlefield of Bull Run, which greatly increased the enthusiasm of our men.

The news just reaches me from the front that the enemy is retreating toward the mountains. I go forward at once to see.

We have made great captures, but I am not able yet to form an idea of their extent.

JOHN POPE, Major-General Commanding.

DISPATCH FROM GEN. M'DOWELL.

WASHINGTON, Friday, August 30.

Secretary CHASE received this afternoon, through Gen. POPE's messenger, the following note from Gen. McDOWELL, dated on battle field at 6:15, morning:

DEAR GOVERNOR -- Please telegraph Mrs. McDOWELL that I have gone through a second battle of Bull Run, on the identical field of last year, and unhurt The victory is decidedly ours.

Very sincerely, IRVIN McDOWELL.

[Homer_J_Simpson]

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Another Battle Week: Defeat of the Rebels on the Bull Run Battle-Ground – 2-4
Affairs at Harper’s Ferry: Increased Military Action – 4-5
A Disaster in Kentucky: Defeat of Our Forces Under General Manson – 5
Southern Kentucky and Tennessee: The Expedition from Bowling Green to Scottville – 5-6
Important from the Rio Grande: A Brisk Cotton Trade Through the Port of Matamoras – 6
The Battle in Kentucky: Our Forces under Command of Gen. Nelson – 6-7
News from Washington: Who Command the Armies in Virginia – 7
Editorial: The Battles Near Washington – 7
Hurry On the Levies! – 8
Lint and Bandages Wanted – Work for the Women and Children – 8
The Rebel Law for Substitutes – 8

[BroJoeK]

Odd how Pope thinks he’s won this battle.

Union casualties totalled over 14,000 including 1,700 killed compared to 7,000 Confederate casualties, about 1,100 killed.

Confederate forces were outnumbered 62,000 to 51,000.

[BroJoeK]

"The Battle in Kentucky: Our Forces under Command of Gen. Nelson – 6-7"

And in Kentucky, slightly outnumbered Confederates again defeated Union forces, making the war -- by the numbers won & lost at least -- a tie to date.

[jeffersondem]

“Odd how Pope thinks he’s won this battle.”

What is odd: blue states, even after 150 years of reflection, continue to claim the right side won the war.

The U.S. Federal Register now has one million pages of rules to regulate our conduct; or is it two million pages now?

Regardless, in the just completed month of August 399 people were shot down in the streets of Chicago.

[BroJoeK]

"What is odd: blue states, even after 150 years of reflection, continue to claim the right side won the war."

Is that right? Well... Democrats lost CW-I but now seem determined to fight & win CW-II.

So, there just seems to be no bottom to the depths of Democrats' hatred for America & Americans.

And they may win this time around -- seems like they almost won the last time.
Hard to guess where Americans can find the leadership & backbone to defeat them now.

[FarCenter]

Interesting how the media’s reporting on war hasn’t changed in the last 160 years. Still getting it wrong.

[PAR35]

Defeat of the Rebels on the Bull Run Battle-Ground

Fake news.

[jmacusa]

The Confederacy was a treasonous joke 160 years ago. It got it’s tail kicked royally.

So if the “Sound Will Rise again’’?

If the modern day Rebs got out of their parents basement and organized, who nows what would happen.

But face it folks, this isn’t 1860.

There are no ‘’masters and slaves’’ so just who are these modern Johnny Rebs going to fight?

And for what reason?

[jeffersondem]

“Democrats lost CW-I but now seem determined to fight & win CW-II.”

Not as long as we have Lincoln's party in opposition.

We can count on the Republican party in Washington to fight, fight, fight: Senators Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Richard Burr, Ben Sasse, Patrick Toomey, Bill Cassiday, Rob Portman, Thom Tillis, Marco Rubio . . . your list of Republican champions goes on and on.

You need a new filter.