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This is where the government will hide during a nuclear war
NY Post ^ | June 12 2017 | Susannah Cahalan

Posted on 09/29/2022 9:53:36 AM PDT by NeverCheney

Maybe Doomsday preppers aren’t so crazy after all.

As nuclear threats loom from countries like Iran and North Korea, the US is knocking the dust off decades-old bunkers intended to protect government officials — and even start a new civilization — in the case of just such a nightmare event.

Journalist Garrett Graff takes readers through the 60-year history of the government’s secret Doomsday plans to survive nuclear war in his painstakingly researched book “Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government’s Secret Plan to Save Itself — While the Rest of Us Die” (Simon & Schuster), out now.

He focuses on the Cold War-era government bunkers across the country that were built to house the President and various Washington elites — members of a so-called “shadow government” in the worst nuclear Armageddon scenario.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: Boogieman

“ Remind us all again, which foreign country has Biden sent US troops to invade?”

Hes got our troops in Ukraine but isn’t making it public. They’re under NATO for cover.

But thanks for supporting Biden on this forum. Unfortunately you have a lot of company.


21 posted on 09/29/2022 10:13:14 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney

“This News article’s a few years old..”

So you’re abusing the forum by posting old filler as news after joining last month.


22 posted on 09/29/2022 10:15:06 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DoodleBob

That’s the first thing that comes to mind. I am pretty much at ground zero if things go down, so I’ll miss their new civilization. I’m okay with that. Who wants a new civilization built by those who were responsible for blowing up the old civilization?


23 posted on 09/29/2022 10:16:07 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: NeverCheney

If your city gets incinerated so that we can make sure Russia doesn’t rule over Donbas, it will be worth it, right?

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Nothing is worth it, but then again, I wont negotiate with terrorists. If Russia wants to nuke us over Donbas, all I ask from my government for my suffering is equal justice. At least my soul will burn in hell with the satisfaction of knowing every city in Russia got melted down too.


24 posted on 09/29/2022 10:17:55 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: NeverCheney

“Hes got our troops in Ukraine but isn’t making it public.”

According to who?

And if Ukraine is the answer to my question, then the US is invading Ukraine? Is that what you are saying?

“But thanks for supporting Biden on this forum.”

For asking a simple clarifying question you say I am “supporting Biden”? That’s awfully defensive.


25 posted on 09/29/2022 10:18:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NeverCheney

So they have no incentive to prevent nuclear war. They can run and hide while we roast. Then they have the nerve to think that their genes are better than ours and can form the basis of a new civilization.


26 posted on 09/29/2022 10:18:58 AM PDT by I want the USA back (We get 1 chance to ditch the fascist dictatorship every November. I won't miss it.)
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To: NeverCheney

Is going to say Biden is busy going after “internal enemies”, like right to life people, MAGA people, and the vast white supremecist conspiracy.


27 posted on 09/29/2022 10:19:51 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: z3n

The ideas of government bunkers may have made some sense in the 1950s when land based ballistic missiles were the primary threat.

Off shore submarines can hit the mainland US within a few minutes—no leadership would make it outside of DC—and they would never be able to poke their heads out of any underground shelters.

The old plans included flying leadership to a bunker in West Virginia—that would never work these days.


28 posted on 09/29/2022 10:20:31 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: ifinnegan

“ So you’re abusing the forum by posting old filler”

Yesterday, Trump posted on Truth Social a clip from February where Biden was threatening to destroy the pipeline. Trump did that to warn that Biden is flirting with WWIII. Was Trump wrong to post that “old filler”?

I’ve posted an article that backs up Trumps warnings against WwIII - because it shows that Biden and the elites have a safe space to survive if they bring on the war. Right now, there’s nothing more important than to warn against their recklessness that could threaten us all.


29 posted on 09/29/2022 10:21:24 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: DoodleBob

30 posted on 09/29/2022 10:21:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NeverCheney
https://www.garrettgraff.com/books/raven-rock/

A fresh window on American history: The eye-opening truth about the government’s secret plans to survive a catastrophic attack on US soil—even if the rest of us die—a roadmap that spans from the dawn of the nuclear age to today.

Every day in Washington, DC, the blue-and-gold 1st Helicopter Squadron, codenamed “MUSSEL,” flies over the Potomac River. As obvious as the Presidential motorcade, most people assume the squadron is a travel perk for VIPs. They’re only half right: while the helicopters do provide transport, the unit exists to evacuate high-ranking officials in the event of a terrorist or nuclear attack on the capital. In the event of an attack, select officials would be whisked by helicopters to a ring of secret bunkers around Washington, even as ordinary citizens were left to fend for themselves.

For sixty years, the US government has been developing secret Doomsday plans to protect itself, and the multibillion-dollar Continuity of Government (COG) program takes numerous forms—from its plans to evacuate the Liberty Bell from Philadelphia to the plans to launch nuclear missiles from a Boeing-747 jet flying high over Nebraska. In Raven Rock, Garrett M. Graff sheds light on the inner workings of the 650-acre compound (called Raven Rock) just miles from Camp David, as well as dozens of other bunkers the government built its top leaders during the Cold War, from the White House lawn to Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado to Palm Beach, Florida, and the secret plans that would have kicked in after a Cold War nuclear attack to round up foreigners and dissidents and nationalize industries. Equal parts a presidential, military, and cultural history, Raven Rock tracks the evolution of the government plan and the threats of global war from the dawn of the nuclear era through the War on Terror.

https://www.macleans.ca/news/world/q-a-garrett-graff-on-trump-nukes-and-emergency-planning/

Congrats, you found an article about an anti-Trump journalist who wrote a book about nuclear war - because Trump.

31 posted on 09/29/2022 10:23:45 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: NeverCheney

Your response is non-sequitur and irrational.

You posted in the wrong forum.


32 posted on 09/29/2022 10:24:09 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Pollard

“ Congrats, you found an article about an anti-Trump journalist who wrote a book about nuclear war - because Trump.”

Right now, we’re threatened with WWIII - because Biden. Trump said this on Truth Social yesterday. I agree. And I don’t care who wrote that book - are you denying that Biden and the elites will go to an underground fortress to survive if they kick off WWIII , as Trump is warning us?


33 posted on 09/29/2022 10:26:31 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: Vermont Lt

What, you don’t think we can spend a trillion dollars in imaginary money every year forever?


34 posted on 09/29/2022 10:26:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: BenLurkin

“Clinical test subject” Sounds like fun!


35 posted on 09/29/2022 10:26:46 AM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: circlecity; HighSierra5
Yes. The government seems to sense that they have made a lot of bad decisions:

They are not polling well — their policies are unpopular with the people.
The economy is crashing — their policies are destroying life savings.
Cities are being abandoned — their policies are causing crime to sky rocket and law-abiding citizens feel abandoned.
Illegal immigration is out of control — their policies have erased the border.

And so, in their hour of desperation, they will make one more decision — they will start a war. Probably with a nuclear power that has been bluntly stating that they will use nukes if attacked.

Let's see if this decision is better than those other decisions.

36 posted on 09/29/2022 10:27:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: NeverCheney

“I’ve posted an article that backs up Trumps warnings against WwIII - because it shows that Biden and the elites have a safe space to survive if they bring on the war. Right now, there’s nothing more important than to warn against their recklessness that could threaten us all.”

Those who survive a real nuclear war will be worse off than those who die so I have no problem with this.


37 posted on 09/29/2022 10:30:19 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Yep, scorched earth for sure but I don’t think it’s their end. The media will see to it that they are protected.They are aggressively advancing their agenda. Things they could not achieve when BO was president. Now going full tilt. Joe is doing a good job for them as he is a good puppet. Joe was installed because he doesn’t know what’s going on.


38 posted on 09/29/2022 10:31:03 AM PDT by PeachyKeen
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To: ifinnegan

Hmm. It’s my experience that folks who get hung up on technicalities often have a deeper agenda. What might yours be? Deflecting criticism of Biden’s reckless Ukraine policy? Maybe not you, but there are Biden supporters who don’t want average Americans to realize that he’s flirting with bringing on a nuclear war.


39 posted on 09/29/2022 10:31:36 AM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney

Don't worry -- Fauci is ready for it!

     

40 posted on 09/29/2022 10:32:06 AM PDT by Songcraft
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