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Hero pilot who shot down at least FOUR Russian Migs in classified dogfight in 1952 to receive the Navy Cross: Captain took on seven jets alone and was shot 263 times - but was ordered not to tell anyone for fear of sparking war
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 18, 2023 | Alastair Talbot

Posted on 01/19/2023 2:49:21 AM PST by C19fan

A hero pilot who shot down at least four Russian Migs in a classified dogfight at the height of the Cold War which saw his jet shot 263 times is to receive the Navy Cross.

Retired Navy Captain Royce Williams was sworn to secrecy for more than 50 years over fears that his battle against seven Soviet fighters could spark war with Russia.

Now the 97-year-old is free to tell his tale and is due to receive the Navy's second highest award for combat valor on Friday at the San Diego Air & Space Museum.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; korea; mig; nato; navy; russia; ussr
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Pretty impressive this Navy pilot flying a Grumman F9F Panther shot down 4 Russian piloted MIG-15s. On paper the MIG was the superior aircraft.
1 posted on 01/19/2023 2:49:21 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

American training.


2 posted on 01/19/2023 2:50:50 AM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: C19fan

So Russia attacked the US?

Seems we owe them some karma, don’t we?


3 posted on 01/19/2023 2:56:17 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

If only it was true.

Our government lies.

This is convenient propaganda.


4 posted on 01/19/2023 3:09:18 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: C19fan

This story makes me smile. These were the days when men were men. You can see in one of the pictures in the article how he’s regaling the men of his story, smiling and gesturing. There’s pride there. Pride for what he did, pride for his country, pride for his training. That pride is called “the patriarchy” nowadays.

How I long for the days of pride in what we do. God bless Captain Williams.


5 posted on 01/19/2023 3:12:55 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Chickensoup
Do you think the U.S. government is inventing stories of past valor against the Soviets to kindle anti-Russian sentiment?
6 posted on 01/19/2023 3:14:09 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: MeganC

So if F15s with no national markings flown by American pilots in Ukraine would be ok because of what happened in 1952?


7 posted on 01/19/2023 3:17:25 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: C19fan

There was another Williams who flew F9’s in Korean. (Ted.)


8 posted on 01/19/2023 3:19:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: rarestia
Pride for what he did, pride for his country, pride for his training.

Pride in fighting halfway around the world with no declaration of war by Congress … as a tool of the United Nations.

No thanks. It’s clear to me where this country went off the rails.

9 posted on 01/19/2023 3:24:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: C19fan

Quite a story.


10 posted on 01/19/2023 3:25:24 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Wow.

You’d think it’d be hard enough just flying them in English!


11 posted on 01/19/2023 3:25:37 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: C19fan

Will Issa be at the ceremony, or will he still be in Davos participating in the Woke Economic Forum?


12 posted on 01/19/2023 3:30:07 AM PST by twister881
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To: Alberta's Child

My grandfather fought in Korea. He was proud to be there. Not saying it was just, but the men who fought and many who died deserve our support. Our government’s faults should not hang around their necks.


13 posted on 01/19/2023 3:30:38 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Chickensoup

It appears true. I searched for information before last year in old newspapers and found it somewhat easily in a 2020 (pre-2022 invasion) article:

https://www.bhpioneer.com/local_news/a-david-and-goliath-dogfight/article_3df3e9f2-38b8-11eb-a355-5b3e6b88eb8b.html


14 posted on 01/19/2023 3:31:26 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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The story admits that his gun cameras say 4 kills for sure. They admit that records show he was engaged by 7 migs, and that 7 migs took off that day, and one made it home. 4 shot down, 1 crashed from damage on way home, and one just disappeared.


15 posted on 01/19/2023 3:34:27 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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I bet Tom Cruise makes a Maverick prequel where this guy is his father.


16 posted on 01/19/2023 3:40:31 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (protesters)
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To: rarestia
I’m sure he was a great guy, and I don’t criticize him and his peers at all.

I would just point out that “He did what his government told him to do” is an epitaph you won’t find on the grave stone of any great figures in history.

Deifying men like that is how you end up living in a country governed by stunted losers like John McCain, John Kerry, etc.

17 posted on 01/19/2023 3:51:48 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: one guy in new jersey

Ouch!


18 posted on 01/19/2023 3:54:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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I'm not clear here...yes,the MIGs were Russian but were the pilots Russian? I assume they were,otherwise the Captain wouldn’t have been ordered to keep his mouth shut.
19 posted on 01/19/2023 3:55:27 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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Thanks for the post.

The expression of Williams in front of the plane with his name on it, says it all.

Brave men like him should always be respected and remembered.


20 posted on 01/19/2023 3:56:34 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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