Posted on 02/08/2023 10:12:23 AM PST by Jamestown1630
I think this is the longest, best and widest ranging interview I've seen with Dr. Vallee.
In it he discusses his concept of a 'control system', and the little-known 1945 San Antonio, New Mexico case, which is a subject of his latest book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHsroufqesk&t=40s
Jacques Vallée "UFO, Trinity, Aliens, Religions, Consciousness"
Jacques not Jacque. Sheesh. I need some coffee!
He is the man—I have many of his books in my library.
The Trinity incident (his latest book) is part of the key to help Congress unlock the secrecy.
It turns out that the Department of Energy, not the Pentagon, had control over the first (known) landed flying saucer—craft and bodies.
That was almost eighty years ago—any claims of “national security” are laughable at this point.
Contractors probably have it now—but it is there waiting to be found by Congress—if they have the determination to refuse to take “no” for an answer.
His early work “Passport to Magonia” totally blew me away when I first read it.
I am just not able to watch people talk for more than 30 seconds — no patience. Is a transcript of these kept anywhere? I will have to look for other info on the incident discussed.
Mostly incomprehensible, transcript is no help neither.
I don’t think there’s a transcription of the YouTube video, but his book ‘TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret’ is available at Amazon.
The female interviewer is hard to understand, but Dr. Vallee himself speaks excellent English. You just have to get used to his accent.
He put out a new edition of ‘Magonia’ in 2014.
I would buy the book if it were available as an Audible audiobook.
By the way (and as an aside), I listened to a podcast by Whitley Strieber yesterday and was surprised to learn that his new book about Jesus being only a man and not divine was based on what he had been told by the "alien" beings in his life.
It is interesting that these beings are interested in pushing that narrative and encouraging Strieber to write a book about it.
Ok, this is one of the sites with fairly detailed info on the San Antonio incident:
https://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/1945-new-mexico-ufo-crash-encounter/
Don’t know if the detail is made up but it is there.
The “aliens” say all kinds of stuff—Vallee was on to them early and considered them tricksters, liars and con artists.
I am not one of those who considers them “demons”—but I do believe that they have their own agendas and have no intention of telling the truth as to what they are and what they want—even if we could understand it.
There is tons of evidence that they manipulate human emotions, beliefs and ultimately actions with their lies.
I don’t fault any contactee for sharing what they heard—they just need to be careful not to get invested in any “message”.
Except that the Department of Energy didn't exist until 1977. Its predecessors, The Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Energy Research and Development Administration, existed between 1974 and 1977. Prior to these, it was the Atomic Energy Commission, which didn't exist until January 1, 1947, after being created by the Atomic Energy Act of 1946 (signed 8/1/46). The Department of Defense didn't exist prior to September 18, 1947 (same with the USAF), it was the Department of War. Prior to 9/18/47, all things Nuclear were the provision of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which was under the Department of War. So, if this craft crashed and was recovered in 1945, it would have been under The Department of War, which would have also been in charge of The Pentagon upon its completion in 1943.
That clarifies their demonic origin. And it sounds like Whitley (IIRC he claims to be Catholic) is very receptive to that slant.
What’s curious to me is that Padilla’s father strongly impressed upon them to talk to NO ONE about what they had seen. This was 1945! and the father insisted that this was military/government ‘stuff’ and nothing to do with them.
And, the kids apparently never did talk.
I think he’s referring to the fact that Dixie Lee Ray had access to the file, and told Padilla about its existence.
Good history—but we know from a former Department of Energy head (Dixie Lee Ray) that she had custody of the craft and bodies when she was Secretary.
The details are discussed in the Vallee book.
Because the craft landed adjacent to the nuclear test site the Atomic Energy folks took control of it—and as far as we know never relinquished that control (except probably to contractors).
There is a lot of evidence that the now Department of Energy, the Air Force and the Navy (to give just three examples) have been competitive and non-cooperative in this field—trying to hide the information from each other and other government agencies as well as the public.
This is part of what Congress needs to address.
I think Whitley decides his narratives on his own :-)
He strikes me as a very sincere person. But he also seems like he has become something of a Stockholm Syndrome victim re: the "visitors."
He's a true believer in the "visitors" message that they are going to lead humanity into a new reality.
As you know there are many different kinds of “visitors”—and Streiber knows that as well.
I think they have totally confused and baffled the poor guy.
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