Posted on 03/09/2023 8:25:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Oregon State costs $120,000 for 4 years at today’s cost estimates. $120,000 for a 4 year degree from a state school does not pencil out for long term value. That’s assuming that you graduate on time and don’t change your major.
The main reason is that so many courses are online now.
Remote college courses may be convenient, but they are boring.
That’s what I’m hearing from college-age young people now.
They’re the smart ones wouldn’t you say?
“Today he works for a plumbing company and takes night classes at a Nashville union.”
The building trades unions have some excellent apprentice programs. The Seafarers’ International Union operates programs for entry positions as well as union members who wish to upgrade their skills. One can advance from an ordinary seaman to captain (master mariner), wiper to chief engineer, or messman to chief steward. Seaman and messman includes both males and females.
“Captain Ahab’s first mate you can get a job at Starbucks.”
Win for today’s best inside joke, almost a pun also.
Yup, a Bachelor of “Science” Degree with a major in Social Justice and a minor in Women Studies is not marketable at a cost of $10,000 much less $120,000.
$120,000 for a 4 year degree from a state school does not pencil out for long term value.
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State school or not, it’s overpriced. It’s about the same garbage.
Some private colleges are around $85K a year with room and board, with 3-8% increases a year.
Woke to broke.
A related angle:
I remember from my early state college years the HUGE hubbub by college staffers when it was simply proposed that some liberal arts requirements for graduation (for any degree) be changed, for example, only 3 semesters of foreign language (or English, etc.) required, instead of 4. Staffers saw that as a threat to job security—fewer courses required, means less teachers needed to give those courses. And don’t dare say that history, sociology, foreign language, etc. are unnecessary anyway for those heading to professional school after college—staffers always argued that a “well-rounded liberal arts education is necessary for any college degree, whether pre-med, engineering, or X studies.” The old “renaissance man” argument, you know.
American Colleges and Universities are opting for foreign students and foothold American residency because they pay far more in tuition. And this Government and Chamber of Commerce businesses gladly assist.
We’re getting sold out for money and for profit, period.
The Internet makes it painfully obvious that "higher" education isn't education at all.
It’s time for me to go to bed. I missed that one until you nearly explained it.
I am 100% encouraging my kids to enter the trades. Certificate or diploma in something relevant but stay away from college. It’s sad, but they are producing worthless degrees and are wastes of money and time.
I’m not seeing this. I have a HS senior and due to test optional and test blind policies apps to “affordable” state flagships have doubled and acceptance rates are now below 50% everywhere. UCLA is down to 10%. It’s brutal.
Online courses are no doubt convenient and often affordable, but lucky for me, my Dad was able to afford my 4.5 year stay in college. I wouldn’t trade meeting all those interesting people at that stage in my life for any online course in the world.
I loved the adventure of it. I also learned how not to complain long distance to the folks about little things at school. Let me handle it myself.
Had to read a while but I see they finally mentioned the proverbial issue of demographics: ever declining birth rates. Incidentally, this is already being used as an excuse by leftists and globalist schill neocons to keep the borders wide open to 3rd world invasion.
“Economists say the impact could be dire.”
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