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Stanford neurobiologist says there is no such thing as 'free will'
American Thinker ^ | 10/21/2023 | Eric Utter

Posted on 10/21/2023 8:22:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: aquila48
It’s really that simple. I don’t understand why it’s so hard to grasp.

Please don't condescend.

81 posted on 10/21/2023 1:48:23 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: SeekAndFind

Today Sapolsky, I chose not to kill.

Tomorrow I will have the same choice.

5.56mm


82 posted on 10/21/2023 1:55:07 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then:

Merrit doesn’t exist.
Racism doesn’t exist.

Even my typos can now be excused.


83 posted on 10/21/2023 2:58:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We are not the offspring of the American patriot movement. We are emailing cowards.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s hard to fathom how lost in space some folks are.


84 posted on 10/21/2023 3:20:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: aquila48
Your idea of "free" is one kind among others.

Agreed, to be "free" means to be free of something. You say that something is the "'hardware' we were born with and the vagaries of the environment that surrounds us."

But free can also mean to be free to act--particularly to act contrarily--while living in this natural hardware and environment.

Examples of this kind of freedom have us free to act contrary to any rewards and punishments designed to fix us.

This view of freedom is very important for the idea of freedom of speech. Government rewards and punishments applied to our speech would be the natural first steps toward the suppression of this view of "free."

85 posted on 10/21/2023 3:31:27 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: frank ballenger
Hope he was right.

There is no "Hope" about it. He is definitely correct.

Read the book of Job to see how God and Satan interact.

86 posted on 10/21/2023 3:41:16 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: tired&retired

Now I see where you are coming from. Consciousness development. I immediately came up with an infant. Does the infant have free will? That goes along with the Bible telling us that there is an age of accountability (when we know right from wrong-we develop or are at the point of reasoning right from wrong).


87 posted on 10/21/2023 3:48:05 PM PDT by GMThrust
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder what brain cells forced him to that conclusion.


88 posted on 10/21/2023 4:48:42 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: 21twelve; janetjanet998; dfwgator

Tis The Set Of The Sail — Or — One Ship Sails East
by Ella Wheeler Wilcox

But to every mind there openeth,
A way, and way, and away,
A high soul climbs the highway,
And the low soul gropes the low,
And in between on the misty flats,
The rest drift to and fro.

But to every man there openeth,
A high way and a low,
And every mind decideth,
The way his soul shall go.

One ship sails East,
And another West,
By the self-same winds that blow,
‘Tis the set of the sails
And not the gales,
That tells the way we go.

Like the winds of the sea
Are the waves of time,
As we journey along through life,
‘Tis the set of the soul,
That determines the goal,
And not the calm or the strife.


89 posted on 10/21/2023 5:21:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: SeekAndFind

…”humans and other primates”…
Therein lies his issue, being submerged in the gloppy sewage of anthropology and that that same blob of sewage can, over millions 😆of years, eventually come down from the trees and sport a pair of skinny jeans, a man bag by day and climb back in trees by night to feast on fruit and watch Naked and Afraid on his smartphone.


90 posted on 10/21/2023 5:56:14 PM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: SeekAndFind

“He chose…poorly.”


91 posted on 10/21/2023 5:57:18 PM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: dfwgator

Our free will is not absolute.

Yes it is subject to certain things, like genetics, imprinting, situations ect.

And of course there is God’s will.

Our free will is not absolute


92 posted on 10/21/2023 6:06:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“As we journey along through life,
‘Tis the set of the soul,
That determines the goal,
And not the calm or the strife.”

I like that. While we may not have been able to chose our early nurture (families) or our early environment, one can make decisions later on that will sometimes allow them to overcome those short-comings. Choosing the right friends comes to mind. The right spouse, etc.


93 posted on 10/22/2023 1:46:18 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: aspasia

They were $.35/ pack when I quit.


94 posted on 10/22/2023 2:11:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: SeekAndFind

Still doesn’t explain why I married the first one.


95 posted on 10/22/2023 2:28:36 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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