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Tesla recalls nearly all vehicles sold in US to fix system that monitors drivers using Autopilot
www.10tv.com ^ | : 7:46 AM EST December 13, 2023 | TOM KRISHER

Posted on 12/13/2023 7:35:55 AM PST by Red Badger

Documents posted Wednesday by U.S. safety regulators say the company will send out a software update to fix the problems.

DETROIT — Tesla is recalling nearly all of the vehicles it sold in the U.S., more than 2 million across its model lineup, to fix a defective system that’s supposed to ensure drivers are paying attention when they use Autopilot.

Documents posted Wednesday by U.S. safety regulators say the company will send out a software update to fix the problems.

The recall comes after a two-year investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration into a series of crashes that happened while the Autopilot partially automated driving system was in use. Some were deadly.

The agency says its investigation found Autopilot's method of ensuring that drivers are paying attention can be inadequate and can lead to foreseeable misuse of the system.

The recall covers models Y, S, 3 and X produced between Oct. 5, 2012, and Dec. 7 of this year.

The software update includes additional controls and alerts “to further encourage the driver to adhere to their continuous driving responsibility,” the documents said.

The update was to be sent to certain affected vehicles on Tuesday, with the rest getting it at a later date, the documents said.

Autopilot includes features called Autosteer and Traffic Aware Cruise Control, with Autosteer intended for use on limited access freeways when it’s not operating with a more sophisticated feature called Autosteer on City Streets.

The software update apparently will limit where Autosteer can be used.

“If the driver attempts to engage Autosteer when conditions are not met for engagement, the feature will alert the driver it is unavailable through visual and audible alerts, and Autosteer will not engage,” the recall documents said.

Depending on a Tesla’s hardware, the added controls include “increasing prominence” of visual alerts, simplifying how Autosteer is turned on and off, additional checks on whether Autosteer is being used outside of controlled access roads and when approaching traffic control devices, “and eventual suspension from Autosteer use if the driver repeatedly fails to demonstrate continuous and sustained driving responsibility,” the documents say.

Recall documents say that agency investigators met with Tesla starting in October to explain “tentative conclusions” about the fixing the monitoring system. Tesla, it said, did not concur with the agency's analysis but agreed to the recall on Dec. 5 in an effort to resolve the investigation.

Auto safety advocates for years have been calling for stronger regulation of the driver monitoring system, which mainly detects whether a driver's hands are on the steering wheel. They have called for cameras to make sure a driver is paying attention, which are used by other automakers with similar systems.

Autopilot can steer, accelerate and brake automatically in its lane, but is a driver-assist system and cannot drive itself despite its name. Independent tests have found that the monitoring system is easy to fool, so much that drivers have been caught while driving drunk or even sitting in the back seat.

In its defect report filed with the safety agency, Tesla said Autopilot's controls “may not be sufficient to prevent driver misuse.”

A message was left early Wednesday seeking further comment from the Austin, Texas, company.

Tesla says on its website that Autopilot and a more sophisticated Full Self Driving system cannot drive autonomously and are meant to help drivers who have to be ready to intervene at all times. Full Self Driving is being tested by Tesla owners on public roads.

In a statement posted Monday on X, formerly Twitter, Tesla said safety is stronger when Autopilot is engaged.

NHTSA has dispatched investigators to 35 Tesla crashes since 2016 in which the agency suspects the vehicles were running on an automated system. At least 17 people have been killed.

The investigations are part of a larger probe by the NHTSA into multiple instances of Teslas using Autopilot crashing into parked emergency vehicles that are tending to other crashes. NHTSA has become more aggressive in pursuing safety problems with Teslas in the past year, announcing multiple recalls and investigations, including a recall of Full Self Driving software.

In May, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, whose department includes NHTSA, said Tesla shouldn’t be calling the system Autopilot because it can’t drive itself.

In its statement Wednesday, NHTSA said the Tesla investigation remains open “as we monitor the efficacy of Tesla’s remedies and continue to work with the automaker to ensure the highest level of safety.”


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1 posted on 12/13/2023 7:35:55 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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2 posted on 12/13/2023 7:38:40 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: Red Badger

The only good part of that stupid movie.

3 posted on 12/13/2023 7:38:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

worst product placement evah!


4 posted on 12/13/2023 7:42:23 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Red Badger

The solution is an over the air software update. It will be done in a few days and cost Tesla almost nothing.


5 posted on 12/13/2023 7:43:57 AM PST by POWG
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To: dfwgator

I wonder if those were real or computer graphics?................


6 posted on 12/13/2023 7:44:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: POWG

“The solution is an over the air software update. It will be done in a few days and cost Tesla almost nothing”

Money wise yes I agree....public relations wise it may well cost tesla quit a bit, especially considering there is now a glut of these vehicles stacking up at dealerships that nobody wants.


7 posted on 12/13/2023 7:49:57 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed!
It was the only good part.
Julia Roberts and Ethan Hawk were whiny little girls.


8 posted on 12/13/2023 7:50:47 AM PST by Zathras
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To: POWG
That's what I was thinking. Won't this update be downloaded via wi-fi at the owner's home?

Not much of a recall.

9 posted on 12/13/2023 7:52:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: V_TWIN
"Money wise yes I agree....public relations wise it may well cost tesla quit a bit, especially considering there is now a glut of these vehicles stacking up at dealerships that nobody wants."

Not so with Tesla!


10 posted on 12/13/2023 8:20:02 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: joshua c

Definitely an “FU” to Elon from the Obamas.


11 posted on 12/13/2023 8:49:47 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

My wife’s Honda is also easy to fool. All that is required is some minimal weight on the steering wheel. For a while, people were selling weights on Amazon, just a few ounces, that you put on the steering wheel. They were marketed to Tesla drivers but I’m sure they would work just as well on other cars with similar driver assist features.

Of course Honda doesn’t advertise the car as “self driving” or auto-pilot like Tesla and GM do. It’s a undocumented feature that combines several “driver safety” features.


12 posted on 12/13/2023 8:51:18 AM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Red Badger

I had to make sure this wasn’t a Babylon Bee story.

Have no fear, TeslaHumper or one of the other EV nerds will tell us that in a few years everything will be just perfect with EVs and you’ll be able to sleep the moment you get into the car and you’ll be able to travel, overland and a frozen Bearing Strait, from France to Maine or Key West(your choice) using only 2 AA batteries.

https://gizmodo.com/a-60-hack-can-fool-the-lidar-sensors-used-on-most-self-1729272292

https://spectrum.ieee.org/researcher-hacks-selfdriving-car-sensors

https://www.techspot.com/news/62032-self-driving-car-sensors-can-hacked-using-laser.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/komando/2023/04/06/how-keep-hackers-taking-control-your-car/11594806002/ Shockingly, your car isn’t immune. With the proper electronics and software techniques, a determined hacker can intercept or block your key fob signal, infiltrate your car’s software, and even remotely control your vehicle.

https://www.torquenews.com/3769/hackers-can-access-vehicles-bluetooth-capability-there


13 posted on 12/13/2023 9:11:38 AM PST by qaz123
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To: V_TWIN

Tesla purchasers are brainwashed to love mass spying on them—over the air software update would definitely be the smart move.


14 posted on 12/13/2023 9:14:39 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: cgbg

Also, it’s not much of a stretch (for me at least) to see the federal government controlling if and when you can drive your EV.

Doesn’t tesla already have a remote kill switch?


15 posted on 12/13/2023 9:18:41 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: qaz123

“Have no fear, TeslaHumper or one of the other EV nerds will tell us that in a few years everything will be just perfect with EVs and you’ll be able to sleep the moment you get into the car and you’ll be able to travel, overland and a frozen Bearing Strait, from France to Maine or Key West(your choice) using only 2 AA batteries.”

Ridiculous statement!


16 posted on 12/13/2023 9:51:26 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ……. Are you sticking up for TeslaHumper? Are you and TeslaHumper BFFs?


17 posted on 12/13/2023 10:19:47 AM PST by qaz123
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To: V_TWIN

I agree there will be some bad press for Tesla but it doesn’t seem to matter too much. My son is a auto broker and he has sold several used Teslas in just a day or two. Of course, we are in Denver and Teslas are very popular here. I can drive 2 miles to the grocery store and I will see 6 or 7 Teslas.


18 posted on 12/13/2023 10:54:44 AM PST by POWG
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To: Red Badger

“The agency says its investigation found Autopilot’s method of ensuring that drivers are paying attention can be inadequate and can lead to foreseeable misuse of the system.”

i heard that the new update fixes this problem by giving the driver a little electrical shock to get their attention when they’re not paying attention ...


19 posted on 12/13/2023 11:03:26 AM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: catnipman

A BLAST FROM THE RADIO WOULD WORK................


20 posted on 12/13/2023 11:05:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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