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CDC Admits No Data Support Advice To Take Mpox, Influenza, And COVID Shots Together
Epoch Times ^ | 12/21/2023 | Zachary Steiber

Posted on 12/21/2023 10:00:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has acknowledged there is no data supporting the co-administration of vaccines for mpox, COVID-19, and influenza, in contradiction of advice a top agency official gave to the public.

"There are no data on administering JYNNEOS vaccine at the same time as other vaccines," the CDC said.


The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters in Atlanta, Ga., on Aug. 25, 2023. (Madalina Vasiliu/The Epoch Times)

The acknowledgment was made in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by attorneys for the nonprofit Informed Consent Action Network, which regularly challenges health agencies to back up claims with hard data.

The nonprofit lodged the request because of a video released by the CDC.

In the video, a narrator says, "Can I get my mpox vaccine at the same time as my flu shot and COVID vaccines?"

"The short answer is yes," Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, acting director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in the video.

Neither the CDC nor Dr. Daskalakis referenced any studies or other data.

The video has been viewed nearly 3 million times.

The CDC official did say that people with heart disease or deemed at risk of heart disease might want to consider receiving a COVID-19 shot at a different time than an mpox vaccine dose "because of a possible risk of heart inflammation associated with some COVID and mpox vaccines."

Myocarditis, a form of heart inflammation, is caused by all available COVID-19 vaccines in the United States, U.S. authorities have said.

Cardiac events of special interest occurred in a higher proportion of recipients of the JYNNEOS mpox vaccine when compared to placebo recipients in a clinical trial, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says in the vaccine's package insert. Six cases among the vaccinated were judged to be caused by the vaccine, though none were myocarditis.

Multiple cases of myocarditis were reported after JYNNEOS vaccination to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which is co-run by the CDC and the FDA, the CDC reported previously. "Current data do not suggest an increased risk for myocarditis after receipt of JYNNEOS, but the possibility of a small risk cannot be excluded," the CDC said in a paper describing the reports.

Additional cardiac cases have been identified in observational studies.

The CDC recommends virtually all Americans receive an annual COVID-19 vaccine and influenza shot. Men who have sex with other men should receive an mpox vaccine, according to the agency.

Dr. Daskalakis said that the JYNNEOS vaccine "is not associated with" myocarditis but that it was "good to talk to your vaccinator or clinician about what's right for you."

The CDC told Aaron Siri, one of the lawyers representing the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), that the records supporting Dr. Daskalakis's statements were the video itself and a page on the CDC's website that contains the acknowledgment there's no data on co-administering the JYNNEOS vaccine at the same time as any other vaccines.

The agency claimed that because the vaccine is based on an orthopoxvirus, it "typically may be administered without regard to timing of most other vaccines."

The CDC response was released on Dec. 18.

"Based on this production, it is clear that neither CDC nor the White House have data to support their safety assertions surrounding coadministration of these three products which is as unfortunate as it is dangerous, particularly since all three of these products have been linked to serious heart inflammation," ICAN said in a statement.

Some studies have suggested that people are at higher risk of stroke if they take influenza and COVID-19 vaccines at the same time.

Dr. Peter Marks, a top FDA official, has said that he would space out different vaccines to avoid the risk of experiencing problems.

Pattern

The CDC has a pattern during the pandemic of making unsupported and false statements.

The agency for months, for instance, falsely claimed that there was no safety signal for myocarditis and COVID-19 vaccines.

The CDC in 2022 offered guidance that children as young as 6 months of age could receive COVID-19 vaccines and other shots together, but there were no data to support that guidance, as the vaccine manufacturers themselves admitted.

An FDA spokesperson previously told The Epoch Times that the fact sheets for the COVID-19 shots stated clearly there "is no information on the co-administration of the specific COVID-19 vaccine with other vaccines."

Some proponents say co-administration of vaccines poses little to no safety risks and can increase uptake of vaccines. Opponents say the technique should not be used without safety data and that public health authorities in general should make sure not to make unsupported claims.

Dr. James Johnston, a family doctor, told The Epoch Times before that he generally advises spacing out shots.

“In vaccine speak, you’re trying to induce immunity without the actual infection,” he said. “You’re creating a fake war to trick the immune system into producing immunity, so space out those wars as much as possible and you’re going to have less untoward side effects in my opinion.”


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cdc; covid; covid1984; flu; influenza; jynneos; monkeypox; mpox; schlongcovid; vaccines

1 posted on 12/21/2023 10:00:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason they want you to get them all together is because a percentage who get one shot will not come back for the others. We’re all just too busy to make separate trips to wherever they are giving shots. It’s political rather than medical.

The problem I see with multiple shots is they are intended to trigger the immune system. Three together might be a lot of triggering for some people. But if your concern is people getting all the shots then it’s worth the risk as far as they’re concerned.


2 posted on 12/21/2023 10:05:15 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: SeekAndFind

At this point I wouldn’t rely upon the CDC’s advice for anything if you know what’s good for you. It’s been entirely corrupted by big pharma.


3 posted on 12/21/2023 10:16:07 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does the CDC want everyone to get the monkeypox shot?


4 posted on 12/21/2023 10:20:33 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, posting again from the noted epidemiological journal The Epoch Times, I see. In other words, there is no scientific review of any of what The Epoch Times published.

The JYNNEOS vaccine is an attenuated live-virus vaccine. The CDC does not note any specific problems encountered when administering an attenuated virus vaccine along with other vaccine types.

One thing that surprises me about the JYNNEOS vaccine is that there are no contraindications against giving it to people with weakened immune systems. Some attenuated live virus vaccines are NOT recommended for patients with weakened immune systems.

The duration of immunity from the two-dose regimen of JYNNEOS has not yet been determined. This leaves open the question of whether it should be boosted at a later time-point.

I have had four smallpox vaccinations with earlier live-virus vaccines, the last one in 2016. One month after receiving the last vaccine, I ran a PCR test myself (that is, I took and prepared the sample and ran and analyzed the PCR myself) and found there was no virus left. As for any immunity remaining after seven years, I don’t know.

Monkeypox and smallpox viruses are closely enough related that the smallpox vaccine will work against monkeypox. It is also effective against other orthopoxvirus infections.

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/mpox/interim-considerations/jynneos-vaccine.html


5 posted on 12/21/2023 10:25:47 AM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another common sense failure.

Combination only increases the odds of adverse reaction AND in that case you can’t identify which agent is the cause.

But maybe that’s the point.

America is a nation where health care has been hijacked by a few big pharma companies and government which manages it all through a “standard of care” they overwhelming define through the CDC, NIH, FDA and DEA.

In America you simply have a private company i.e. insurance that is a store front and charging more money, but the real decision makers are those defining the “standard of care” which doctors and hospitals reluctantly deviate from, which insurance hide behind to control costs.

What people laughed about years past when Palin said we would have “death panels,” is basically what you have today. Government is deciding your health care, and you’re getting extremely expensive (big pharma, private hospitals, doctors) managed care (government directed / decided). Example: Once Obama decided that gay is ok, gender dysphoria got a diagnostic code and all mainstream insurance covered its treatment. Your health care in America is flow charted, and what you get has already been decided upon. It’s not really your decision and based on the advice of your doctor, UNLESS you pay out of pocket as I did when being treated for cancer using an advanced treatment.

So the US is becoming like most socialist nations where you have crappy care for the masses, but those who can afford it get the best care imaginable.


6 posted on 12/21/2023 10:35:34 AM PST by Red6
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To: Deaf Smith

—> Why does the CDC want everyone to get the monkeypox shot

In case you’re straight but suddenly are seized with a desire to change genders.


7 posted on 12/21/2023 10:41:53 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: Deaf Smith

So it’s harder than Hades to determine which shot is doing what to whom.


8 posted on 12/21/2023 10:48:47 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The CDC has adopted the animal rights agenda.

Why risk the health and lives of white mice when you can test on gullible humans?


9 posted on 12/21/2023 10:50:37 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long
The largest community college district in the United States, LACCD (where I work) is sending us emails demanding we get vax'ed or we're bad people:

Dear LACCD Community,

We hope this email finds you and your families well as we enter the holiday season.

As we look towards preparing for the upcoming winter season, we wanted to alert you to an urgent health advisory from the CDC that current vaccination rates for influenza, COVID-19, and RSV are low, yet respiratory virus activity is high. The increasing number of respiratory diseases signals to us all the critical need to take important steps to safeguard the health and well-being of our families, as well as our students, faculty, and staff. The concerning trend of low vaccination rates poses a significant risk to the health of individuals and the overall well-being of our communities.

Given the potential for increased respiratory disease activity during the upcoming winter season, we encourage everyone to get vaccinated. These viruses can cause severe illnesses and place additional strain on our healthcare system. The County of Los Angeles Public Health website contains useful information about these vaccines and where to find a vaccine location near you.

As members of the LACCD community, we share the responsibility of creating a safe and healthy environment for everyone. Your decision to get vaccinated not only protects you but also contributes to the well-being of those around you.

Let us come together to create a safer and healthier community.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Francisco C. Rodriguez, Ph.D. Chancellor, Los Angeles Community College District

Nichelle Henderson President, LACCD Board of Trustees

10 posted on 12/21/2023 12:27:03 PM PST by 4Liberty (🦅STAND🦅WITH🦅TRUMP🦅)
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To: 4Liberty

Evil!!!!


11 posted on 12/21/2023 12:29:14 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Jane Long
Yup. And they use district (taxpayer-funded) work emails to blast out "lectures" to be "safe" and get the clot shot.

Unbelievable! How much does Pfizer pay LACCD administrators to do this? You gotta wonder... Sickening!😠

12 posted on 12/21/2023 12:36:35 PM PST by 4Liberty (🦅STAND🦅WITH🦅TRUMP🦅)
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To: 4Liberty

That would make for an excellent investigation….if only we had REAL journalists to do just that, in the lying MSM.
😡


13 posted on 12/21/2023 12:55:50 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Only damnfools and ignorants will take those shots now. Too much information is out and open about the WuFlu shots and the flu shots have never been very effect. Take D3 supps daily and you don’t have to worry about any of that stuff and you don’t get needles stuck in your arm.


14 posted on 12/21/2023 1:24:39 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe du)
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To: Deaf Smith

Because it is profitable for Big Pharma.


15 posted on 12/21/2023 1:25:35 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe dop)
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To: Jane Long

These Rats all ‘work’ (collude) together..... Admin is in the pocket of the leftist labor unions. Chinese money at our colleges influences pushing “Green”/Climate Change curriculum & programs, etc.

It’s as bad as you can imagine — just like Harvard. 🙄


16 posted on 12/21/2023 2:36:21 PM PST by 4Liberty (🦅STAND🦅WITH🦅TRUMP🦅)
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