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Recession has struck some of the world's top economies. Yet, The US keeps defying expectations
Marketbeat via AP ^ | 02/16/2024

Posted on 02/16/2024 8:18:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

NEW YORK (AP) — As some of the world’s biggest economies stumble into recession, the United States keeps chugging along.

Both Japan and the United Kingdom said Thursday their economies likely weakened during the final three months of 2023. For each, it would be the second straight quarter that’s happened, which fits one lay definition for a recession.

Yet in the United States, the economy motored ahead in last year’s fourth quarter for a sixth straight quarter of growth. It’s blown past many predictions coming into last year that a recession seemed inevitable because of high interest rates meant to slow the economy and inflation.

Give much of the credit to U.S. households, who have continued to spend at a solid rate despite many challenges. Their spending makes up the majority of the U.S. economy. Government stimulus helped households weather the initial stages of the pandemic and a jump in inflation, and now pay raises are helping them catch up to high prices for the goods and services they need.

On Thursday, a report showed that fewer U.S. workers filed for unemployment benefits last week. It’s the latest signal of a remarkably solid job market, even though a litany of layoff announcements has grabbed attention recently. Continued strength there should help prop up the economy.

Of course, risks still loom, and economists say a recession can’t be ruled out. Inflation could reaccelerate. Worries about heavy borrowing by the U.S. government could upset financial markets, ultimately making loans to buy cars and other things more expensive. Growing losses tied to commercial real estate could mean big pain for the financial system.

But, for now, the outlook continues to appear better for the United States than many other big economies. The mood on Wall Street is so positive that the main measure of the U.S. stock market, the S&P 500 index, topped the 5,000 level last week for the first time.

“First and foremost, it’s important to emphasize that the market’s performance is more a reflection of a thriving economy rather than unwarranted ‘animal spirits’ from investors,” according to Solita Marcelli, chief investment officer, Americas, at UBS Global Wealth Management.

When it upgraded its forecast for global growth in 2024 a couple weeks ago, the International Monetary Fund cited greater-than-expected resilience in the U.S. economy as a major reason.

Several unique characteristics of the U.S. economy have sheltered it from recessionary storms, analysts say. The U.S. government provided about $5 trillion in pandemic aid in 2020-2021, far more than overseas counterparts, which left most households in much better financial shape and supported consumer spending well into 2023.

The Biden administration has also subsidized more construction of manufacturing plants and infrastructure through additional legislation passed in 2021 and 2022 that was still having an impact last year. About one quarter of the U.S. economy’s solid 2.5% growth in 2023 was made up of government spending. Republican critics, however, charge that the extended spending contributed to higher inflation.

“We had some policies that I do think helped us a lot,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at KPMG. “But also the structure of our economy is so much different.”

Americans have been better protected from rising rates than U.K. counterparts, for example, because most U.S. homeowners with mortgages have long, 30-year fixed rates. As a result, the Federal Reserve’s rapid rate hikes of the past two years -- which have lifted mortgage rates from around 3% to about 6.7% -- have had little effect on many U.S. homeowners.

Yet their British counterparts carry mortgages that have to be renewed every two to five years. They've struggled with rapidly rising mortgage rates as the Bank of England has lifted borrowing costs to combat inflation.

Catherine Mann, a member of the Bank of England's interest-rate setting committee, said Thursday that the U.K. economy's slowdown should be temporary. There are already signs in business surveys that the economy is picking back up, she added.

“The data we have today is rear-view mirror,” she said on the sidelines of an economic conference in Washington. Forward-looking reports “are all looking good.” Like the Fed, the Bank of England is considering reducing its benchmark rate once it is confident inflation is under control.

Another benefit for the United States is that it experienced a surge in immigration in recent years, which has made it easier for businesses to fill jobs, potentially expand their operations, and has led to more people earning wages -- and then spending those earnings.

Japan, by contrast, is rapidly aging and has seen its population shrink for years, as it is less open to foreign labor. A declining population can act as a powerful drag on economic growth.

In Europe, consumer sentiment is weak among consumers who are still feeling the effects of higher energy prices caused by the war in Ukraine.

Even China, whose economy is growing faster than the United States’, is under heavy pressure. Its stock markets have been among the world’s worst recently due to worries about a sluggish economic recovery and troubles in the property sector.

The U.S. economy faces its own challenges. Its growth is forecast to cool this year as big hikes to interest rates by the Federal Reserve make their way fully through the system.

A report on Thursday may have given a nod to that. Sales at U.S. retailers slumped by more in January from December than economists expected.

Some pillars of support for consumer spending may be weakening. Student loan repayments have resumed, consumers have largely spent their pandemic stimulus money and credit-card balances are high.

Perhaps most frustrating is the fact that prices for things at the market are still much higher than they were before the pandemic. Lower inflation means prices are rising less quickly from here, not that they're falling back to where they used to be.

Coping with inflation remains U.S. consumers’ top concern, except for those making more than $150,000, according to a recent survey by Morgan Stanley.

When McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski discussed his company’s latest quarterly results, he said he’s not seeing much change in behavior among middle- and upper-income customers. But “where you see the pressure with the US consumer is that low-income consumer, so call it $45,000 and under. That consumer is pressured.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: ap; apfakenews; associatedpropaganda; defyingfacts; economy; goebbelsaward; pathologicalliar; recession
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1 posted on 02/16/2024 8:18:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s because the US can print money & inject it into the economy in large part due to the dollar being the world’s reserve currency. That masks the impacts, but the piper will come to collect at some point in time. That time will be when the world accepts a different form of payment, besides US dollars. It’s only a matter of when, not if. But the when keeps inching closer & closer because they spending is not being brought under control. Just like the invasion is not being controlled.


2 posted on 02/16/2024 8:23:37 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind
Just keep printing!

Can use those sheets for wallpaper.

3 posted on 02/16/2024 8:25:11 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons... )
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To: SeekAndFind

It would seem that regardless of the tireless energy of the evil Obama-Biden axis they just can’t quite kill us off! Hooray for President Trump and his arrival next year! We only hope and pray that he will choose the VP wisely.


4 posted on 02/16/2024 8:26:11 AM PST by ABStrauss (I miss Rush! )
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To: SeekAndFind

$2 Trillion deficits in 2024 are a great stimulus - at least for government recipients, their cronies and social engineers to whom the money flows.

That’s 8% of GDP.


5 posted on 02/16/2024 8:26:48 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

> the United States keeps chugging along <

Better to say that the government’s data fakers keep chugging along. Don’t believe your higher grocery and utility bills. Believe what some weasel at the Fed says.


6 posted on 02/16/2024 8:28:02 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like how they “stumble into recession”, rather than “whip the four horses of climate-change into recession”. Like Joe stumbles about.


7 posted on 02/16/2024 8:31:15 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Robert DeLong

I think people would take the debt more seriously if they hadn’t started hearing we’re going down and in Deep trouble from about the 5 trillion mark until today. When you hear that and then nothing happens, it becomes noise.


8 posted on 02/16/2024 8:35:30 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope the us is just cooking the books. The real state of the economy will come out after the Democrat loses. Or it will continue to cook if the rat wins


9 posted on 02/16/2024 8:41:19 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Robert DeLong

“when, not if”

ya .... but what a ride!

praise the Lord and pass the ama-nishion

I can’t post pics... so just imagine the guy riding the nuke
in Dr strange love.... YAAA-HOOOOO


10 posted on 02/16/2024 8:46:34 AM PST by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Printing press goes BBBRRRRRRRRRRRR....


11 posted on 02/16/2024 8:47:00 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: All

The GDP equation is —

GDP = C(onsumption) + G (overnment Spending) + I(nvestment) + (Exports - Imports)

GDP is about $24T. Fully $6T of that is Federal spending (spending is much greater than deficit) and you can add more for State and Local government spending.

Further, somehow, Soc Sec payments to recipients is called part of Consumption

Investment is decreased by taxes.

There is a conservative habit of imagining the Capitalism is glorious and the source of all good things. But look at the equation and the totals.

GDP increase ($$ not %) in nearly all of the years since 2000 has been less than the deficit.

Capitalism has failed. Government spending, often funded by whimsically created Fed dollars, is the source of our GDP.

And no, it is not because of Reserve Currency. That actually is a meaningless phrase. It is all because of whimsy. The MMT people are dangerously close to correct.


12 posted on 02/16/2024 8:55:17 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bibonomics???
It’s all propaganda and fake expansion fueled by monetary expansion. We exported bad policy in 1981 and now our trade partners are importing our inflation.

The Biden circus is juggling too many cartons of fresh crap which will soon hit the ground.

It ain’t gonna end well.


13 posted on 02/16/2024 9:01:32 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff )
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To: SeekAndFind
Yep, nobody prints money like "we" do.

House of cards

Roman Empire Part Deux

14 posted on 02/16/2024 9:04:36 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: napscoordinator
No, the early warnings were to get people to realize that if we did not get serious about this we would eventually end up in real danger. However, everyone wants to have it all. So here we are knocking on the door of communism & the debilitating realities that are a given result.

Greed is the problem. Most Americans were happy to have a home, a job, & a family that they could enjoy on a salary. But eventually people wanted more. There is no system that can sustain that, especially as populations grow.

They didn't want to have to do what it takes to generate wealth, they wanted an easier route.

Thus, games were played to increase the wealth of people, basically by taking the currency off of the god standard, which allowed for the money supply to grow. That works for a while, but when a majority of the rest of the world begins to feel the pinch that the strongest country, in this case the US, isn't affected, then the world starts to realize that powerful nation's money is becoming more & more worthless and they collectively start looking for an alternative, because the powerful nation cannot survive for long on that course, because they will eventually implode, which will affect the other nations negatively as well.

15 posted on 02/16/2024 9:04:37 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: 1of10
ya .... but what a ride!

What goes up must come down. The ride up is always more enjoyable than the ride down.

But how selfish we were to take the ride that out children will never enjoy.

Is it any wonder that we have generations that face so many mental issues, and why they hate their parents.

16 posted on 02/16/2024 9:09:26 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

The liars in DC corrupted the CPI when BeijingBiden was installed. Critical economic indicators no longer include food or gas.


17 posted on 02/16/2024 9:18:05 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: Owen

Capitalism didn’t fail; it was murdered.


18 posted on 02/16/2024 9:20:30 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's all deficit spending which props up he GDP figures.

Potemkin economy. And rising prices with stagnant wages are beginning to translate into real anger, even among the otherwise left-leaning people I know. They're telling me they'll sit this election out or vote third-party.

19 posted on 02/16/2024 9:22:51 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: SeekAndFind

“Defying expectations”???

Hardly.

They control all aspects of the economy the nth degree, including public opinion (media).

The reality will be fast, painful and “unexpected” according to the government & media blowhards, while the rest of us have seen the signs for many, many months.


20 posted on 02/16/2024 9:47:42 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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