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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Prosecution's bug expert struggles on stand

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Forensic entomologist Madison Lee Goff, left, testifies for the prosecution at the trial of David Westerfield.

SAN DIEGO — The insect expert prosecutors hoped would destroy David Westerfield's chances for acquittal stumbled badly during his turn on the witness stand Tuesday, capping confusing, overly technical testimony with the admission he made basic math errors in his findings.

Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology, blushed a deep red as a defense lawyer for the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam repeatedly confronted him with five separate errors in data he used to analyze bugs collected at the 7-year-old's autopsy.

"I made a mistake adding," said Goff, the chair of the forensic science department at Honolulu's Chaminade University and one of only nine certified forensic entomologists in North America.

Entomology has become a battleground as Westerfield's two-month long capital murder trial draws to a close. The strongest evidence for the defense comes from this field in which insect specialists use the age of maggots and flies decomposing a body to help determine a time of death. Danielle, abducted from her bedroom Feb. 1, was missing 26 days and when her body was finally found, the medical examiner was unable to pinpoint when she was killed. Two forensic entomologists hired by the defense said their analyses suggested her body was dumped along a roadside in mid-February, long after Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Prosecutors, who have a pile of other evidence against Westerfield, including hair, blood and fingerprint evidence, hired Goff soon after the first defense entomologist testified.

Goff said Tuesday he disagreed with the conclusions of both defense experts, but the time frame he offered, Feb. 9 to Feb. 14, was only slightly earlier than theirs and did not neatly fit the prosecution's theory that Danielle was killed between Feb. 2 and Feb. 4 while Westerfield claims he was on a solo camping trip. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek had to question his own expert in much the same way as he cross-examined the defense experts, hinting that variables in the weather and the disposal of Danielle's body cast doubt on the certainty of any entomological findings.

Goff agreed that very hot, very dry weather conditions in San Diego in February might have mummified Danielle's 58-pound body almost immediately and that flies may not have been attracted to the desiccated body. A forensic anthropologist, called by the prosecution last week to cast doubt on the bug evidence, said the insects may have arrived later and only after coyotes and other animals began scavenging her body and Goff said this scenario seemed possible.

He also said a covering, such as a blanket, might have kept flies at bay initially. No covering was found and Goff later said the longest delay by such a shroud was two and a half days.

Much of his testimony was a detailed view into the mathematical nuts and bolts of his conclusions. Goff did not look at the bugs himself. Instead, he reviewed photos and the reports of the defense experts. He told jurors he came up with four separate time lines based on two different temperatures at two separate locations, a golf course a mile and a half from the crime scene and National Weather Service station farther away.

Goff's testimony bounced between these four sets of findings and even after he said the lower temperature and the weather service station provided the most reliable, appropriate date, it was often unclear which findings he was referring to. He peppered his speech with entomological jargon like "accumulated degree hours" and referred to blowflies by their the Latin names. He talked about temperatures in Celsius degrees, frequently prompting Dusek to ask for a Fahrenheit translation. Much of his work seemed lost on jurors, who stopped taking notes early on in his testimony.

On cross-examination, defense lawyer Steven Feldman grilled him about the way he calculated the day-to-day temperatures which dictate how fast an insect grows. Goff explained the process, but then Feldman handed him a pocket calculator and asked him to review his findings. With the courtroom completely silent, Goff added rows of figures and discovered his errors. Feldman asked him if the mistakes effected the accuracy of his estimates and Goff said they did. Several jurors picked up their notebooks and began writing rapidly.

A few minutes later, under questioning by Dusek, Goff said the slip ups made little difference in the ultimate conclusions. And as he had earlier in his testimony, he emphasized to jurors that his was an extremely narrow study of bugs, not a "stopwatch" for determining time of death.

"We're establishing a minimum period of time the insects have been feeding on the body," said Goff.

"Are you establishing a time of death?" asked prosecutor Jeff Dusek.

"No, that's outside our area of expertise," said Goff.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, watched most of the testimony from the back row of the courtroom, occasionally flinching as Goff described the condition of their daughter's remains.

The prosecution rested its rebuttal case after Goff's testimony. There will be no witnesses Wednesday and the defense will put on its sur-rebuttal case Thursday. Closing arguments could happen as early as next Monday.

Also Tuesday, a lab technician testified that orange clothes some law enforcement officers wore when searching Westerfield's house were not the source of fibers found in both the defendant's home and in Danielle's necklace.

The trial is being broadcast live on Court TV.



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KEYWORDS: bugguys; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield
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To: clearvision
"The witness had early replied he had never seen/heard of evidence that mummification like this would impact access to body."

I agree..I do remember that and him agreeing that he's not had personal observation..

WRT: the rest of it..yes, but does not hearing about it make it not so? (unless I missed yer point..)

501 posted on 08/01/2002 12:50:30 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
Can't find ,so far, the exact figure. Memory says the trail was 80-90 feet.

But the drag marks were not the entire trail. What orange blanket? Where is this blanket? Is it with my briefcase that has $1,000,000 in it ?,

Yes, you should keep better track of your stuff. What would be signs that it was elsewhere? Low bug activity, high degree of mummification

From what I understand, the body didn't have other evidence that it was somewhere else.

502 posted on 08/01/2002 12:56:26 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Jaded
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503 posted on 08/01/2002 12:56:29 PM PDT by pyx
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To: Karson
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504 posted on 08/01/2002 12:56:57 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
That particular line of questioning, dusek was pointing out the moisture factor...and that the bugs would not have crawled in through the anus if the moisture was absent.

The way I understood this line of questioning was after he had established (or attempted to) that the flies had not entered/laid eggs in head region, he then said, "and common areas of access are eyes, nosa, vaginal areas." Then he says something to the effect of, "but the anus would be tight wouldn't it and flies would not be able to access that region." When witness balked, Dusak again stated that anus as compared to ears and mouth would not be as open and would be tight as in skin touching skin. The witness was not allowed to explain how mucles relax so witness just said that the flies would get in period.
At this point Dusak does another 360 degree flip and says but with moisture absent flies would not have crawled thru anus. Witness, I belive, agreed to this because if moisture WERE absent flies would not have crawled in.

This is how I heard this exchange, it is by no means exact.

505 posted on 08/01/2002 12:57:25 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Moisture evaporated...because of temp, santa ana winds and possibly the heat radiating off of the roads.

I think she would to have had to have been a wee bit closer to the road (like laying on it). AND, the prosecution has been trying to claim the temperature was below freezing for at least 2 weeks. Little hard for roads temps to affect a body that far away, wouldn't you agree?

506 posted on 08/01/2002 12:58:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: pyx
Is that suit red or orange? Or orangish-red? Or reddish orange? Or bright orange? It looks kind of dull to me.
507 posted on 08/01/2002 12:58:18 PM PDT by shezza
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To: spectre
It's a shame you couldn't have apologized for that garbage you posted about my boasting about not watching the Prosecutions witnessess. Which, is about as wrong as it gets.

I recall you saying during the prosecution case that you were tuning them out and just waiting for Feldman, sw.

Not injecting myself between you and redlipstick except to say she was not off base in her characterization of what you said.

You may have been facetious, but you said it. And I'm not going to bother to go back to find it

508 posted on 08/01/2002 12:59:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: pyx
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509 posted on 08/01/2002 1:00:10 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: VRWC_minion
Correction: Their best start minimum dates for bug activity range from 9 Feb to 16 Feb. This should not be ignored.

Absolutely not...That's the Nancy Grace spin. Each gave range. The end dates given are associated with the minimum time necessary for the ovserved results, the start dates indicate the maximum time for the observed results. Any more time and the insect activity would have proceeded to a more advanced stage.

510 posted on 08/01/2002 1:00:18 PM PDT by bolthead
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To: shezza

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511 posted on 08/01/2002 1:00:31 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: shezza

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512 posted on 08/01/2002 1:00:34 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: alexandria
Dusek is trying to claim the body was 'completely mummified, but if that were the case, there would be no flies, PERIOD!! Hall is correcting the whole misunderstanding concerning the area of 'mummification' by using the word 'dryness' instead, since the body was hardly 'mummified' at all.
513 posted on 08/01/2002 1:00:41 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: shezza
Yeah, (smacks forehead) I missed that. Shezza, quick, you need to check the fibers and see if they are "similar".
514 posted on 08/01/2002 1:02:05 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: FresnoDA
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515 posted on 08/01/2002 1:02:16 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Jaded
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516 posted on 08/01/2002 1:02:30 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: alexandria
Thanks.. I agree with your comments but don't remember that witness trying to talk about muscle relaxation. Could be one of the times the dern realplayer stalled...maybe duseks is controlling our real players! :)
517 posted on 08/01/2002 1:02:54 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"the most vocal"

think we're all pretty vocal over there. Amazing the freedom you have to state your mind without hazardous waste being thrown at you.
518 posted on 08/01/2002 1:02:59 PM PDT by kayti
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To: Jaded
Now what did I do with my microspectrophotometer?
519 posted on 08/01/2002 1:03:52 PM PDT by shezza
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To: connectthedots
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520 posted on 08/01/2002 1:05:20 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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