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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Prosecution's bug expert struggles on stand

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Forensic entomologist Madison Lee Goff, left, testifies for the prosecution at the trial of David Westerfield.

SAN DIEGO — The insect expert prosecutors hoped would destroy David Westerfield's chances for acquittal stumbled badly during his turn on the witness stand Tuesday, capping confusing, overly technical testimony with the admission he made basic math errors in his findings.

Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology, blushed a deep red as a defense lawyer for the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam repeatedly confronted him with five separate errors in data he used to analyze bugs collected at the 7-year-old's autopsy.

"I made a mistake adding," said Goff, the chair of the forensic science department at Honolulu's Chaminade University and one of only nine certified forensic entomologists in North America.

Entomology has become a battleground as Westerfield's two-month long capital murder trial draws to a close. The strongest evidence for the defense comes from this field in which insect specialists use the age of maggots and flies decomposing a body to help determine a time of death. Danielle, abducted from her bedroom Feb. 1, was missing 26 days and when her body was finally found, the medical examiner was unable to pinpoint when she was killed. Two forensic entomologists hired by the defense said their analyses suggested her body was dumped along a roadside in mid-February, long after Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Prosecutors, who have a pile of other evidence against Westerfield, including hair, blood and fingerprint evidence, hired Goff soon after the first defense entomologist testified.

Goff said Tuesday he disagreed with the conclusions of both defense experts, but the time frame he offered, Feb. 9 to Feb. 14, was only slightly earlier than theirs and did not neatly fit the prosecution's theory that Danielle was killed between Feb. 2 and Feb. 4 while Westerfield claims he was on a solo camping trip. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek had to question his own expert in much the same way as he cross-examined the defense experts, hinting that variables in the weather and the disposal of Danielle's body cast doubt on the certainty of any entomological findings.

Goff agreed that very hot, very dry weather conditions in San Diego in February might have mummified Danielle's 58-pound body almost immediately and that flies may not have been attracted to the desiccated body. A forensic anthropologist, called by the prosecution last week to cast doubt on the bug evidence, said the insects may have arrived later and only after coyotes and other animals began scavenging her body and Goff said this scenario seemed possible.

He also said a covering, such as a blanket, might have kept flies at bay initially. No covering was found and Goff later said the longest delay by such a shroud was two and a half days.

Much of his testimony was a detailed view into the mathematical nuts and bolts of his conclusions. Goff did not look at the bugs himself. Instead, he reviewed photos and the reports of the defense experts. He told jurors he came up with four separate time lines based on two different temperatures at two separate locations, a golf course a mile and a half from the crime scene and National Weather Service station farther away.

Goff's testimony bounced between these four sets of findings and even after he said the lower temperature and the weather service station provided the most reliable, appropriate date, it was often unclear which findings he was referring to. He peppered his speech with entomological jargon like "accumulated degree hours" and referred to blowflies by their the Latin names. He talked about temperatures in Celsius degrees, frequently prompting Dusek to ask for a Fahrenheit translation. Much of his work seemed lost on jurors, who stopped taking notes early on in his testimony.

On cross-examination, defense lawyer Steven Feldman grilled him about the way he calculated the day-to-day temperatures which dictate how fast an insect grows. Goff explained the process, but then Feldman handed him a pocket calculator and asked him to review his findings. With the courtroom completely silent, Goff added rows of figures and discovered his errors. Feldman asked him if the mistakes effected the accuracy of his estimates and Goff said they did. Several jurors picked up their notebooks and began writing rapidly.

A few minutes later, under questioning by Dusek, Goff said the slip ups made little difference in the ultimate conclusions. And as he had earlier in his testimony, he emphasized to jurors that his was an extremely narrow study of bugs, not a "stopwatch" for determining time of death.

"We're establishing a minimum period of time the insects have been feeding on the body," said Goff.

"Are you establishing a time of death?" asked prosecutor Jeff Dusek.

"No, that's outside our area of expertise," said Goff.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, watched most of the testimony from the back row of the courtroom, occasionally flinching as Goff described the condition of their daughter's remains.

The prosecution rested its rebuttal case after Goff's testimony. There will be no witnesses Wednesday and the defense will put on its sur-rebuttal case Thursday. Closing arguments could happen as early as next Monday.

Also Tuesday, a lab technician testified that orange clothes some law enforcement officers wore when searching Westerfield's house were not the source of fibers found in both the defendant's home and in Danielle's necklace.

The trial is being broadcast live on Court TV.



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KEYWORDS: bugguys; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield
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To: Karson
There are over 100 registered members at FRR.

The proportion of people that are registered with Free Republic and FR Refugee and post to these threads is about the same...because only a tiny fraction of FR members actually post to these threads..whew!

It's only natural, that those who have been denied priviledges always seem to want to put a place down. It's the nature of the beast.

sw

521 posted on 08/01/2002 1:05:59 PM PDT by spectre
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To: VRWC_minion
Thank you for the humorous comebacks. This thread needs more humor today.

I still don't (and I am serious) understand this statement;

the body didn't have other evidence that it was somewhere else.

What exactly would that evidence be ? To me, there is nothing that would show that. Unless it would be a big card with the words "STORED AT JOE'S PUBLIC STORAGE" on it.

522 posted on 08/01/2002 1:07:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Sort of like reasonable doubt. If I'm a pathologist and I come across a case of a head lying in a field I will probably conclude that the person is dead, based on never before having heard of a case of a body continuing to live without a head. If I'm then questioned on whether I personally have ever seen a body without a head before and I say no, does that mean I can't conclude the person is dead?
523 posted on 08/01/2002 1:07:52 PM PDT by clearvision
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Kim...we can't continue this charade any longer...

My conscience is getting to me...

I AM THE MOLE FOR KIM at Fort Refugee...

Ahhhh....I feel so cheap...please forgive me..../so


524 posted on 08/01/2002 1:07:53 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
.maybe duseks is controlling our real players! :)

Wow! do you really think so?
Just kidding, although I have been a tad bit suspcious when at a REALLY good question RP cuts out, if the Media heads don't have something to do w/it.

525 posted on 08/01/2002 1:09:31 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: shezza
Must be in the same place we hid the giant shrink wrap machine. Dang (smacks forehead again), I wrote it down, the dog musta ate it.
526 posted on 08/01/2002 1:09:56 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: spectre
Excuse me while I "inject myself" to tell you that I'm not "injecting myself". Oh......this is a hoot.
527 posted on 08/01/2002 1:10:18 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FresnoDA
"tsk tsk" FresnoDA! LOL!
528 posted on 08/01/2002 1:11:07 PM PDT by Mrs.O'Strategery
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To: FresnoDA
I sure will be glad when testimony starts again..something constructive will occur..LIKE POLITE DISCUSSION. :)
529 posted on 08/01/2002 1:12:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
What exactly would that evidence be ? To me, there is nothing that would show that. Unless it would be a big card with the words "STORED AT JOE'S PUBLIC STORAGE" on it.

Trace evidence from another location, signs on the body of movement comes to mind.

530 posted on 08/01/2002 1:12:11 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Jaded
the dog musta ate it.

Or that dadgum ant.

531 posted on 08/01/2002 1:12:23 PM PDT by shezza
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To: alexandria
It's very annoying....but it's ALMOST OVER..we'll get our lives back.
532 posted on 08/01/2002 1:12:48 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
In testimony? Are you joking?
533 posted on 08/01/2002 1:13:08 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: UCANSEE2
the body didn't have other evidence that it was somewhere else.

Besides, weren't you the one that said,"you can't prove something with a negative" ?

534 posted on 08/01/2002 1:14:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; redlipstick
I lurk often...am on the ping lists, and seldom post. Who could get a word in edgewise? ;-) (Hey, Kim...good news on my dad...check haven).
535 posted on 08/01/2002 1:14:17 PM PDT by GummyIII
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To: UCANSEE2
This thread needs more humor today.

How fortunate... this arrived in my email today:

"One of the city's top cardiac specialists died. At his funeral, his coffin was placed in front of a huge replica of a heart made of red roses. When the pastor finished the sermon, and everyone said their good-byes, the large heart opened up, the coffin rolled inside, and the heart closed again. It was a majestic tribute to the much-loved cardiologist. Suddenly, one of the mourners burst into a fit of laughter. Irritated by his insensitivity, the man sitting next to him asked, "Why are you laughing, Mister?" "I was just thinking about my own funeral," the man replied. "I'm a gynecologist."

536 posted on 08/01/2002 1:14:49 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: FresnoDA
FresnoDA..
You disappoint me. I had thought that our conversations were 'safe' and not disclosed to others. That puts things in a whole new perspective. I will no longer be upfront and honest, knowing that you are so willing to break the terms of registration. Man your guns all you want... I am hiring "The Mole Man" to exterminate the rodents. Consider yourself OUTTED!!
537 posted on 08/01/2002 1:14:51 PM PDT by kayti
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To: Mrs.O'Strategery

NEWSFLASH....

The Bren and The Demon have signed a deal as the Spoke-swingers for this new, uhm...device....eww..

 

and the newest version, the Segue

Double Ewww...


538 posted on 08/01/2002 1:14:56 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Jaded
Not in but WHEN...
539 posted on 08/01/2002 1:15:02 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
Shhhhhhhhhh........don't shatter her dreams.
540 posted on 08/01/2002 1:15:09 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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