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Karl Rove: Sarah Palin not a ‘front-runner’ for 2012
The State Column ^ | December 8, 2010

Posted on 12/07/2010 9:46:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Former presidential adviser Karl Rove said Tuesday that the race for the Republican Party presidential nomination is wide open.

“There is no front-runner in Iowa; there’s no front-runner in America,” Rove said on Fox News. “We should welcome that.”

Since November, Mr. Rove has made similar comments during his speaking tours. He has openly criticized a number of Republican nominees, including Republican Delaware U.S. Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell. Ms. O’Donnell eventually lost to Democratic U.S. Senator Chris Coons.

He noted that recent polls show four candidates who are consistently ahead. Among those included likely include former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, all of whom have been touted as possible presidential candidates.

The fact that no single candidate is leading in early polls “means this contest is going to be wide open,” Mr. Rove said, adding that a wide open race is good for conservatives.


TOPICS: Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; attacker4romney; backstabber4romney; bastardromney; bastardrove; benedictrove; brutusromney; brutusrove; freepressforpalin; karlrove; palin; romney; rove4romney; saboteur4romney; sarahpalin; stenchofromney; tokyorove; vicious4romney
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How would he know?
1 posted on 12/07/2010 9:46:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove blew it. Someone needs to tell him. He is over.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 9:46:46 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Impossible for him to say as NO ONE had announced yet.


3 posted on 12/07/2010 9:47:31 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karl, you ought to ask Sarah if she will accept your endorsement now, before it’s too late.


4 posted on 12/07/2010 9:51:56 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove wants conservtives to wallow around with a half dozen potential candidates while some RINO walks away with the prize. We need one conservative front runner by spring.


5 posted on 12/07/2010 9:52:12 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove truly has become the bastard, but not a magnificent one, as many FReepers once assigned to him.


6 posted on 12/07/2010 9:52:19 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

7 posted on 12/07/2010 9:53:03 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is an idiot. Someone tell Sean Hainnity who has RINO idiots like Rove and Newt on his radio show.


8 posted on 12/07/2010 9:53:55 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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Karl is looking rather irrelevant these days.


9 posted on 12/07/2010 9:54:54 PM PST by Rio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He doesn’t know anything, but he sure is more than willing to spout off utter tripe.


10 posted on 12/07/2010 9:55:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: marron

Every true conservative who does not kowtow to the RINO line will always be shut down by Rove.


11 posted on 12/07/2010 9:56:24 PM PST by max americana (FIVE)
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To: freedomfiter2

He’s for hire. The more they wallow the more he can shop himself. Dude is past tense, no longer relevant, and stumping still for the Bush faction.


12 posted on 12/07/2010 9:57:24 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karl Rove is as much my enemy as Nancy P. Is. Why, you might ask?
Answer: He opposes Conservatism as much as she does, and further more he supports DC corruption as much as she does, pure and simple.
Know thy friends and enemies, and then proceed wisely, that’s my outlook!
Karl, Newt, The Huskster and others are paid against dedicated to the destruction of Our Republic because they operate for money at hand, and have no principles that they are willing to sacrifice for. JMHO


13 posted on 12/07/2010 9:57:36 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

14 posted on 12/07/2010 9:58:08 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

there really is no front runner,it’s too early to declare anyone as the potential winner.Chris Matthews especially has declared Sarah Palin as the winner. Maybe it’s because he wants her to win? so he can continue bashing her for the next two years? I am still sticking with my earlier predictions of either Pence or Thune(even though many Freepers don’t agree with me).


15 posted on 12/07/2010 10:00:25 PM PST by JohnThune2012 (was)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, shut it Karl.


16 posted on 12/07/2010 10:01:11 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll bet Rove will soon come out and tell us that it’s Dick Lugar’s turn in the GOP nomination barrel.


17 posted on 12/07/2010 10:04:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper friends!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought he made some good points on the National Review cruise, but when I discussed my thoughts with the unassailable Kate O’Bierne, she said he was defending W’s and his policies.


18 posted on 12/07/2010 10:07:05 PM PST by synbad600
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin 2012... and Rove can KMA.


19 posted on 12/07/2010 10:10:54 PM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: freedomfiter2
“There is no front-runner in Iowa; there’s no front-runner in America,” Rove said

Translation: Romney has dropped in the polls! Sarah is surging...We need to do something quick!

20 posted on 12/07/2010 10:15:43 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not a big Palin fan, but Rove is a fool and a weasel. Palin is clearly the front runner at the moment. (I’d prefer DeMint, but he doesn’t have anything like her numbers or her...well...her numbers)


21 posted on 12/07/2010 10:17:05 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We don’t even have announced candidates yet.

Presidential politics have evolved — or devolved,depending on your viewpoint — so that they are in the news two of every four years of our lives. That’s absurd.

I agree with Rove.

If we have to put up with this for two years, let’s not try to crown a candidate yet. Let it play out. Vet them all, let them state their case, and let’s listen with open minds.

Anything can happen between now and the summer of 2012.


22 posted on 12/07/2010 10:17:53 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see. Sarah endorsed O’Donnell but O’Donnell wasn’t elected. I guess Sarah made a wrong guess. Nobody’s perfect.

Karl endorsed her, but said O’Donnell would lose. Whatever his motivation, Rove was right. Somehow, though he becomes the spawn of Satan in that single moment of clarity.

So how is it that making right predictions in his commentary is sufficient to move him from “Rove, you magnificent bastard,” to, “Rove, you stupid bastard”?

And when did we change the meaning of the initials “FR” from Free Republic to Fickle Republic?

Then again, maybe our motto should be ‘We kill and eat our wounded.” Now there’s a recipe for victory.


23 posted on 12/07/2010 10:19:46 PM PST by newheart (Please don't shoot at the thermonuclear weapons. --Vic Deakins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove, shut your liberal pie hole and get lost!


24 posted on 12/07/2010 10:20:27 PM PST by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How would he know?

He's like the MSM, they say what they want to happen not what is happening.
25 posted on 12/07/2010 10:22:35 PM PST by presently no screen name (."Thus you nullify the Word of God by your tradition that you have handed down." Mark 7:13)
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To: newheart

In before some clever genius types the words “Tokyo Rove.”


26 posted on 12/07/2010 10:23:46 PM PST by newheart (Please don't shoot at the thermonuclear weapons. --Vic Deakins)
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To: achilles2000

Not only that, he has declared more than once that he is not running.


27 posted on 12/07/2010 10:24:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s rich. I wonder how many actually knows what that means. /lol


28 posted on 12/07/2010 10:30:41 PM PST by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rove hates Palin.

However, if she chooses to run, few will run against her in the primaries. If they do, it will be short lived.

Palin will suck up all the money, attention and votes very, very early in the campaign.

That's why nobody has formally announced yet. They all know they don't stand a chance against her.

29 posted on 12/07/2010 10:36:47 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Gator113
Palin will not be the nominee in 2012. And I believe that Romney, Huckabee, nor some of the other hold overs from the last time.
It will be someone from a state governor or one of the new house members that will be it.
Sarah Palin CANNOT get elected, her negatives are just too large among the public. You may like her but the fact is that more than 60% of the people that vote do not.
30 posted on 12/07/2010 10:39:46 PM PST by Wooly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Rove on this. The field is wide open and there’s a lot of time between now and then.

Rove’s problem, though, is that he was part of the W republicans, who spent 8 years purging conservatives from the party. I was a party official during those years and saw it happen over and over.

Rove can’t stand seeing his work in that regard undone. But 2010 was a huge repudiation of the bluebloods’ handiwork by the R voters. Our gains in the state houses and the house moved the party strongly to the right. Jim DeMint and Sarah Palin are the prime movers in undoing his work. That’s why this battle is going to be so vicious.


31 posted on 12/07/2010 10:40:07 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Rio

“Karl is looking rather irrelevant these days.”

Can’t say that I agree. He is one of the leaders of a faction of R’s that have the most money and the best power network in the party, by far. He’s a smart, capable guy. Don’t underestimate him.

I just disagree with the direction he wants to take the party.


32 posted on 12/07/2010 10:42:00 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fact that no single candidate is leading in early polls “means this contest is going to be wide open,”

Errrrr..... Not exactly.

Who gets all the buzz,
all the press,
is most hated and ridiculed by the MSM and
has all the MO?

33 posted on 12/07/2010 10:42:17 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: DWar

Plus who’s gonna get $2 million dollars from 2ndDivisionVet?


34 posted on 12/07/2010 10:48:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: newheart

I’ll explain it to you.

Rove went on national T.V. and trashed O’Donnell on the night she won the primary. Rove was free to support whoever he wanted before then, but at that point, the people of the state had spoken and chosen their candidate.

He and the “establishment” should have backed her and supported her financially at that point, but instead they continually trashed her. After a while it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Rove never mentions Romney wasting millions in his support of loser Carly Fiorina, who lost by a wider margin than O’Donnell did. Somehow that doesn’t translate into “causing the republicans to lose the Senate”

Rove and the establishment RINO’s are stupid bastards...there is nothing ‘magnificent’ about them.

They practically destroyed the republican party and we have Sarah Palin and the Tea Party (oh they hate that too) to thank for the victories in the last election.

Most conservatives I know are sick to death of the elite Washington go-along-to-get-along insiders and their big spending ways. Rove is just the ugliest and most visible example of that and he keeps speaking up.

If he don’t start none, won’t be none.

got it?


35 posted on 12/07/2010 10:48:31 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Wooly

Wooly, I don’t buy those numbers and even if I did, it’s way too soon for them to mean anything. The process has hardly begun.

I believe in this lady and I will support her in what ever she chooses to do. Palin will win, you’ll see.


36 posted on 12/07/2010 10:49:57 PM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: Gator113

Sarah Palin will win the nomination in a cakewalk and the White House in a landslide.

This is going to be fun to watch.


37 posted on 12/07/2010 10:52:35 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: t-dude
Good work. If they don't get it yet the slow wits never will. Stiff arm them . I really enjoy the wizards that know who will do what a year from now . They should do us all a favor and share stock tips and football picks .
38 posted on 12/07/2010 10:57:38 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: t-dude

Very well explained. Even a caveman should understand it.


39 posted on 12/07/2010 11:01:26 PM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This I actually agree with Rove: “a wide open race is good for conservatives.”

However, Rove does not say why it will be good. I can say that it is because Sarah Palin will be in it. Because of her, the level of discourse will be one that explains the conservative cause. It will be a discourse that the nation will benefit from because Sarah Palin will lead the conversation in a way that only she can do. She will be most prepared on what to say and, because of the way she can communicate it, she will be the one that everyone will look to.

And, Sarah Palin will convince the nation that the conservative, constitutional direction is the way to go.


40 posted on 12/07/2010 11:10:40 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove-San


41 posted on 12/07/2010 11:13:58 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: t-dude
Rove never mentions Romney wasting millions in his support of loser Carly Fiorina, who lost by a wider margin than O’Donnell did.

At least get the numbers right:

Fiorina lost by 11%, O'Donnell lost by 16.6%.

42 posted on 12/07/2010 11:19:22 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Plus who’s gonna get $2 million dollars from 2ndDivisionVet?

ME?

43 posted on 12/07/2010 11:28:52 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a strategery here.

Do you remember the race in 2000?

All I’m saying is that their feud will escalate, then he’ll come around, and their ‘reunion’ will be good for a couple of dozen news cycles...

You heard it here first.


44 posted on 12/07/2010 11:37:09 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history.)
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To: IncPen

He is trying to strangle her in her crib....I doubt she will come around when it is over.


45 posted on 12/07/2010 11:52:15 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: freedomfiter2

“Rove wants conservtives to wallow around with a half dozen potential candidates while some RINO walks away with the prize.”

As does the GOP.


46 posted on 12/08/2010 1:07:40 AM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! DeMint, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gay men cannot stand strong women.


47 posted on 12/08/2010 1:37:02 AM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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To: Gator113
Even if you do not believe the numbers, I will still argue that Palin will not be it for another reason.
The next President of the USA will be a White Male, maybe a younger one, but a White Male. Blacks, Hispanics, and women are viewed as a experiment forward in the USA and Obama has made almost 60% of the country think that this experiment was a mistake and they will go back to the normal which is a White Male.
48 posted on 12/08/2010 1:52:10 AM PST by Wooly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How’s the koolade, Rover?


49 posted on 12/08/2010 2:16:35 AM PST by chemicalman (The Obama's: Proud members of the Vacation-A-Month Club.)
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To: Frantzie

I am completely over Hannity and Beck. I cringe when I hear their voices. The same old stuff with the same old retreads every stinking day.


50 posted on 12/08/2010 2:23:49 AM PST by Post5203 (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...Edmund Burke)
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