Posted on 06/28/2011 10:53:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
She does speak well and her prompter remark resonates with most fed up Americans.
Every one, outside of Palin inner circle, have a very difficult time reaching her. Very understandable, SP is a very busy woman.
MB would get some SP supporters if SP doesn't enter the race, but not as many as she would need.
I think these polls show that, not that I trust polls this far out.
And I think you can thank Ed Rollins for her less than adequate support from SP supporters.
Definitely.
Cheers,
Jim
Definitely.
Cheers,
Jim
I’m not going to wade through long unfocused ramblings, to seek a possible answer to my direct questions to you.
Gee, I didn't think you had such a short attention span that you couldn't even read one sentence into a post. Since you apparently have an extremely short attention span, I'll repost both your question and the answer, so you don't have to think too hard:
ansell2: You mean that is why Romney didn't get elected, or did you mean Huckabee?Charles: No, it is my opinion that we ended up with McCain because conservatives were never able to recruit and run a conservative that everybody would support.
I realise there were a lot of words after the answer. That was for the grown-ups; you just had to read the 1st sentence.
Don’t confuse people not wanting to read your rambling nonsense with them having a short attention span, your writing does not come anywhere nearing what your ego leads you to believe about it.
This is what you posted. “””This is how we’ll end up stuck with Romney; conservatives taking pot shots at other conservatives trying to beat them down to leave room for their preferred candidate. That’s how we got McCain last time.”””
You described the 2008 primary where you were a famously dedicated Romney defender, so I don’t think you were proposing Huckabee, you were talking about Romney not getting in which was a great result.
Well, you certainly can skip reading whatever you want to, but it does leave you in danger of posting ignorant stuff like you just did, as I addressed that in the larger part of my previous reply.
Maybe you could explain to nobody in particular what your interpretation of “end up stuck with Romney” means.
I wasn’t proposing anybody. This isn’t college-level writing here: “conservatives taking pot shots at other conservatives” was a description of supporters, not candidates. “That’s how we got McCain” means we got McCain. The words seem clear enough. It wouldn’t even make SENSE to be “proposing” some other winner in an election that happened 3 years ago, that’s just bizarre.
Maybe you were one of those freepers who was happy with McCain, rather than one of the other remaining candidates; I know some people would rather have McCain than Romney, others would rather have McCain than Huckabee, and even I think I’d have rather had McCain than Giuliani.
As I noted in the explanation you refused to read, Rush Limbaugh thought Giuliani and Romney were both preferable to McCain. And there were a lot of Freepers after Thompson dropped out who were reluctant “supporters” of Romney or Huckabee.
Maybe there’s something you aren’t saying — do you think Bachmann isn’t a conservative?
Like I said you were one of the most determined Romneybots, nothing seems to drive you far away from him, you still lament his loss in 2008.
That’s a logically sound and syllogistic string of reasoning on your part CW.
if x then y; if y then z...
I appreciate logic, don’t you?
I don’t care that Romney lost. I was kind of relieved because at least then I wouldn’t have to put up with 4 years of people blaming Romney for Obama’s election.
I was also happy he wasn’t picked as VP, and said so at the time. Again, because it would have been tiresome to see people blaming Romney for McCain’s failure to win election.
I haven’t supported Romney since he lost the nomination. And in this thread, the post you responded to was a call to conservatives to pick a candidate so we aren’t stuck with Romney.
But you seem to be stuck in the past, where I was one of the best defenders of Romney against charges I found to be without merit. I disagree with your opinion that I was ever blindly committed to Romney — I believe I knew exactly what the pros and cons were of his candidacy, and made a choice not to reject him; but he wasn’t my “Only” candidate until it was a 3-man race with Huckabee and McCain (oh and Ron Paul).
I was a FredHead from the day Fred joined the race, until the day he dropped out. I even have a t-shirt.
I’d explain exactly why I no longer support Romney, but to do so I’d have to explain why I supported him, and we are not allowed to post anything good about Romney, and I respect the right of the site owner to set the rules.
Either one would make a great President, and I’d hope that both will have a chance at that office. Right now Bachmann’s in and Palin’s not. If Palin does join the race — a hard choice to make.
It must be torture for you not to be able to flood FR with the Romney waste that you used to gag us with, but you do what you can.
I have said repeatedly on that subject, personally I am quite happy with the ban. Far from being torture, I am relieved.
First, I don’t really care about Romney this time around anyway, so I have little interest in trying to keep him viable, as I did last time. Second, to the degree I feel obligated to correct people when they get facts wrong, it is a lot of work, with little reward. Now I don’t have to feel obligated, or feel bad, because we aren’t allowed to do that anyway.
Third, if the question is about a specific fact that isn’t related directly to Romney, I’ve still been posting
corrections, and nobody has given me trouble about it.
And fourth, because I don’t really want Romney to win this time, and I have no interest in him, I like that the ban has tended to cut out most of the Romney talk. And I can skip the ones that are posted.
Anyway, if I actually wanted Romney, which I don’t, I’d love the ban, because it makes anti-Romney posts here meaningless. People come to a site like FR in part to see the debate, to see which ideas win and lose. When they see that certain ideas and opinions are banned, they know that means they don’t get good information about those ideas or opinions, just a one-sided biased picture.
Anyway, I apparently have my hands full trying to keep Michelle Bachmann viable here (it is so weird to type that — if you had asked me 6 months ago who I thought was most likely to get trashed on FR, Bachmann would have never even entered my mind).
LOL, it is like a Romney leak that you just can't stop, by the way most of the old Romney crowd is now pushing Bachmann, just as NPR, Chris Mathews, and much other media is.
And Bachmann has the gall to run for the Presidency! That run belongs to Saint Sarah!
The only nasty pieces of work I'm seeing are this thread are the anti-Bachmann people.
I don’t know why you think “most of the old Romney Crowd” is pushing Bachmann. Although I imagine some might because they think Bachmann can’t beat Romney, and will suck the air out of a possible Perry entry into the race, or split the conservative vote.
I’m not “supporting” Bachmann right now. She wasn’t my pick before she entered, and I’m not sure she’d be my first pick of those who have entered the race. I do “back” her, and I have backed Sarah Palin since she was chosen to be the VP nominee, although I can’t say she’s my pick, since I’ve decided not to pick anybody who isn’t already in the race, because of the Fred Thompson thing in 2008.
The left is pushing Bachmann because they don’t think she can win, and they don’t think Palin (their first choice) is going to run. Just as a lot of conservatives pushed Obama in 2008 because they thought he couldn’t actually win.
Charles when I read that post, by the time is is finished, with your contradictions, it comes out as Palin is the dream candidate of the left, and you understand why Romney supporters have switched to Bachmann.
What I keep hearing between the lines is a frustrated Romneybot.
I can’t address your perceived contradictions, as you didn’t mention them.
You did get the jist of the post anyways, with the caveat that I disagree with those on the left who think Palin would be their dream candidate, and I don’t really know that Romney supporters ARE switching to Bachmann, that was your unsupported assertion.
Until you show some evidence that the uptick in Bachmann support comes from Romney supporters, I think it would be strange for people who support a candidate who is actually IN a race to switch to support a different candidate.
I didn’t even use the word “switched”, I used the word “pushed”, again not based on my own observation, but your hypothesis.
Maybe instead of “switched to bachmann”, you meant “support”, or “defend”.
Now, for freepers who supported Romney, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them supporting Bachmann or some other conservative candidate this time. I know there were some who simply adored Romney, but most Freepers were conservatives, and like I did, fell to Romney more as a “best of the remainder”; now they have a much better candidate list to choose from.
I can only authoritatively speak for myself. I didn’t mind supporting Romney in 2008, because his platform was solid, he had executive and financial experience, and money to wage a solid campaign. I was taking a chance that he wasn’t lying, but that’s always true more or less for any candidate.
Since then, not only do we have a better class of candidates, AND an electorate more likely to support a more conservative candidate, but Romney lost me when he defended the ‘RomneyCare’ law AS implemented, and he’s said several things since that just make it worse, like “I can work with Democrats”.
I can tell you that you are wrong, and explain why, but I can’t make you “hear”, or help how you peak between the lines and see spirits and ghosts from the past. I won’t try any more on this thread.
You seem incapable of putting clear thoughts to print, you float and drift all over the place.
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