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Money quote from a little further in the article:

"GOP donors on the sideline right now" misunderstand the dynamics of the party's increasingly populist primary electorate. They're not angry about Wall Street bailouts and financial industry recklessness, they're LIVID. No one bailed them out. All they got was the bill."

I capped that "livid" to reflect the emphasis in the original.

Please read this short piece. I am not posting it to boost Perry, but because it is an interesting commentary on the ongoing divide in the Republican party. That is why I posted it in the GOP Club forum, where I have never posted anything before.

FWIW, Mickey Kaus states that John Ellis is a Bush family cousin and seems to imply that this is a message from the "Bush team".

1 posted on 08/18/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by jocon307
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NO MORE RINOs.

That said:

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



2 posted on 08/18/2011 7:26:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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I’ll donate more to Perry than I have ever donated to any candidate. Same for Palin or Cain.


3 posted on 08/18/2011 7:28:13 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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Well, the old guard ‘establishment’ GOP who appointed Dole, GWB and McCain are ticked that they can no longer dictate who will be president for conservatives.

If for no other reason than that, I will support Perry. Its time they realized they have done us NO good with their ‘superior’ wisdom.

I like that Perry is NOT identifying with that bunch. (ticks off Rove, though)


4 posted on 08/18/2011 7:29:21 AM PDT by Dudoight
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The one thing I don’t like about the article. The reporter talks about Rick Perry’s statements and speeches so far. He chalks it all up to a grand strategy that he has and he is channeling the populist message. Did it ever occur to the reporter that he makes his religious statements and his statement about Bernanke because he might actually believe it? I know it’s a novel idea but it’s a possibility.


7 posted on 08/18/2011 7:33:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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People that say Perry is a Bush team player, don’t know the facts. Even tho GW stayed out of the Gov race. Mommy and Daddy came out big time for Kay Bailey.

No love lost there.
The fact is that who ever pulls out on top will get the money. Period. Zero at 26% approval, Market having grand mal seizures. The big money will go to the Repub whoever that may be.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 8:00:49 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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I just cannot believe the fuss generated by Perry’s common-sense remarks about the Fed. It shows, I guess, the inside-Washington circle-the-wagons mentality as well as the incredible economic ignorance that grips this country’s elites.


16 posted on 08/18/2011 8:39:50 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: jocon307; KansasGirl; Sudetenland; Diogenesis; Dudoight; Old Teufel Hunden; Godwin1; SMARTY; ...
Thank you for this thread, jocon307. It is quite interesting, your examination of the split among Republican voters/donators.

I am truly at a loss right now about Perry. I want so much to believe him and in him, but right now I am very suspicious of what might be behind him.

I have serious concerns that conservatives are being set up with Perry. I am concerned that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. I LOVE the things he is saying on the campaign trail, but have strong reservations about his track record of actions and possible power elite backing.

If I had to choose right now him or Romney it would be him, Perry. I do not know AT ALL who I support overall at this time. That being said, I would crawl over broken glass to vote for anyone that has a serious shot at unseating Obama and has ANY kind of real conservative credential. While I question Perry's conservative credential, I see from his time in Texas that an engaged electorate can sway him.

I am asking everyone to please consider carefully Perry's background - do your own research confirmations of what people say about him, both positive and negative.

Here is some research I did when a friend sent me the Glenn Beck interview of Perry:

I love Beck, love the interview. Was looking at some of the commentary below the interview and I decided to look into the accusations. This is what I found, just to scratch the surface a little bit. These findings may or not be relevant to your election decision equations, but they are to mine, and I will weigh this data carefully.

Glenn Beck interviewing Rick Perry 6 27 11
Beck interview of Perry

He's favorable toward Perry.

Two comments from Comment section at bottom of interview page:

"Rick Perry Attended 2007 Bilderberg Meeting in Turkey, Signed Executive Order Requiring HPV Vaccines for All 6th Grade; Girls, Former Democrat and Headed Campaign of Al Gore, supported Trans-Texas Corridor/NAFTA Super Highway and Sanctuary Cities"

"Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore's presidential campaign. Got it? Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore's presidential campaign. Rick Perry was chairman for Al Gore's presidential campaign!"

Following are the stories/reports I found regarding some of the charges in the first comment.

Report of Rick Perry's attendance at Bilderberg Turkey 2007:

Perry's attendance at 2007 Bilderberg Meeting in Turkey
News 8 Austin

Report of Perry's support of Sanctuary Cities:
Perry's support of sanctuary cities
From a San Antonio newspaper

Rick Perry's participation in the Trans Texas Corridor:
Perry and Trans Texas Corridor
From the Houston Chronicle

17 posted on 08/18/2011 8:44:25 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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“that he has a cowboy problem”

Ooooohhhh, the “C” word! Why do bed-wetting Libs hate cowboys?


28 posted on 08/18/2011 11:02:49 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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He could also raise some money from LaRaza.


30 posted on 08/18/2011 11:09:39 AM PDT by dforest
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The citizens of the world who occupy space here don’t much care for the sound of the Americans.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 5:58:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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I agree about Americans being livid.

Case in point, I was in Boston yesterday for a business lunch with my coworkers. We started talking about the economy and the mess we are in and one of them was talking about how Perry referred to Bernanke as committing treason. Anyhow, I clarified the quote for them and instead of scoffing at Perry and saying it was over the top or disrespectful, they were actually saying “good for him” or “he's right”.

Again, let me remind you I was in very blue Boston and I try and avoid discussing politics with these coworkers in most cases as I am usually the freak because I'm not a liberal. Will they vote for Perry?? Only time will tell, but I can tell you they don't like Obama right now. No more hope and change I'm guessing on their part.

34 posted on 08/18/2011 7:11:53 PM PDT by MissyMa
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You CANNOT..in 2012...run ANY political campaign that is ambiguous about your immigration “position” in the current job market.

Unemployed Americans are looking for assurances of their governments’ concern about THEIR plight...not that of businesses forced into looking for disposable labor because of onerous tax and regulatory policy.

Illegal Labor is the Feds out for preserving the status quo regarding Taxes and Regulation...and is the ultimate litmus test as to the candidates in question commitment to meaningful regulatory and tax reform. If they are wishy-washy on the subject...they have no real intent to disturb the DC status quo...no matter how big their cowboy hat and six-gun.


37 posted on 08/19/2011 9:33:30 AM PDT by mo
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