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Palin and a real presidential run
The Los Angeles Times ^ | September 2, 2011 | Robin Abcarian

Posted on 09/02/2011 6:42:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Des Moines-With her youthful wardrobe — platform sandals, polka-dotted toenails and skinny, low-cut jeans — Sarah Palin does not look like the buttoned-up, middle-aged Republican presidential contenders who've been traipsing around New Hampshire and Iowa for weeks. But here she is, just like them, sweeping into both states this weekend to give speeches on her way to, well, what?

If she is to run for president, she said last month, she will have to decide by the end of September.

Many Republicans with ample presidential campaign experience say her window is closing fast. Polls suggest that her indecisiveness may have turned off many Republican voters who might have been more open to her before Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann got in the race.

That could change, though, if Palin decides to run.

"She obviously has total name identification, and still has a net positive image with the Republican base, the people who vote in caucuses and primaries," said Charlie Black, a veteran Washington lobbyist who served as Sen. John McCain's chief advisor in the 2008 presidential campaign. "She has proven her ability to raise money. The necessary tools are there."

Last month at the Iowa State Fair, Palin said any campaign of hers would be "very grass-roots."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Iowa; Minnesota; New Hampshire; Texas; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: iowa; minnesota; newhampshire; palin; rickperry; sarahpalin; texas
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Just on my own, I'll raise $2 million dollars for her campaign and I'm a 50-something disabled veteran with all kinds of health issues. Just imagine what her younger and/or healthier supporters will be able to do.
1 posted on 09/02/2011 6:43:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think she’s playing tea party cheerleader and that’s it — unless she gets drafted at the convention. Sorry dude.


2 posted on 09/02/2011 6:57:39 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll raise $2 million dollars for her campaign and I'm a 50-something disabled veteran with all kinds of health issues

You're a good man, 2DV.

3 posted on 09/02/2011 7:00:44 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just watched the Undefeated on Direct TV pay per view.

WOW! It was GREAT! I hope everyone in America gets to see it. A little surprised to see them go after establishment Conservatives so strongly. A breath of fresh air.

Those that say Sarah can’t win, needs to watch this movie.

She’s a “can do” kind of girl. I hope she announces soon, I’m so excited after watching the Undefeated!


4 posted on 09/02/2011 7:02:13 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama raised $800m in 2008, this time around he’s expected to net in $1B. He started raising funds six months ago. His challenger needs to raise this much or close to it. Obama begins with CA, WA, NY, MA ,CT, DE, OR, and IL in the bag. Advantage: Obama.

This late into the game, and the chances of raising $1B in a divided field of candidates is well, to put it mildly, not easy.


5 posted on 09/02/2011 7:03:29 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: WriteOn

Sorry dude. <<<

Dare to bet your convictions?.....I have a standing offer for bets and FR donations........NOT 1 TAKER YET!.....amazing!


6 posted on 09/02/2011 7:05:58 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Steelfish

I hope she runs. She’ll have my vote...or Herman Cain... someone not with the virus of the beltway.


7 posted on 09/02/2011 7:06:10 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: MountainDad; 2ndDivisionVet
"You're a good man, 2DV."

MountainDad is right. You're pretty alright in my book and I don't even support your candidate!

8 posted on 09/02/2011 7:06:32 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: faucetman
I just watched the Undefeated on Direct TV pay per view.

Me, too. Last night. Same reaction. I was choking back tears at the end.

Bottom line: THE LADY IS A CHAMP

Let's roll.

9 posted on 09/02/2011 7:07:47 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: rovenstinez

She’ll have my vote and whatever money support I can put behind her. If not, then Herman Cain. At least I can vote my conscience in November if Perry runs. If he cannot take this state without my vote, then he is already toast... as I expect him to be.


10 posted on 09/02/2011 7:08:35 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: LaybackLenny

Peeved that its not on UVerse yet. Was all set to watch it tonight.


11 posted on 09/02/2011 7:10:11 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
2DV, you're Aces in my book.

Onward and upward.

12 posted on 09/02/2011 7:11:30 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: WriteOn; 2ndDivisionVet
I think she’s playing tea party cheerleader and that’s it — unless she gets drafted at the convention. Sorry dude.

Well Dude, don't quit your day job because your political prognostication skills are sorely lacking as everything that Governor Palin has done for the last 6 months screams the exact opposite of your assertion.
13 posted on 09/02/2011 7:11:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: faucetman
A little surprised to see them go after establishment Conservatives so strongly.

This is why I can't believe she's only there to endorse Perry, as someone suggested by posting an article on FR earlier today. Is Perry even there?

14 posted on 09/02/2011 7:12:28 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would imagine that once Sarah went into campaign mode,unconventional as it will be,some minds will change.

She can pull this thing off.


15 posted on 09/02/2011 7:12:52 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: rovenstinez

I hope she runs too. But before that I want to know whether she could raise the $1B dough and win. But for me its anybody but Obama and Michelle.


16 posted on 09/02/2011 7:13:19 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lol...they call it indecisiveness. It's decisive because she has a very specific plan.
17 posted on 09/02/2011 7:15:10 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: faucetman
A little surprised to see them go after establishment Conservatives so strongly.

She's calling out the liars, thieves and charlatans regardless of party. Let the chips fall where they may.

RUN SARAH, RUN

18 posted on 09/02/2011 7:16:47 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: Steelfish; 2ndDivisionVet
Obama raised $800m in 2008, this time around he’s expected to net in $1B. He started raising funds six months ago. His challenger needs to raise this much or close to it. Obama begins with CA, WA, NY, MA ,CT, DE, OR, and IL in the bag. Advantage: Obama.

This late into the game, and the chances of raising $1B in a divided field of candidates is well, to put it mildly, not easy.


Your political calculus is sorely lacking, because the one thing you haven't mentioned is the grass-roots.

There is no other candidate, declared or potential, in this race whose supporters come even close to being as deep or committed, or excited, or enthusiastic about their candidate than Sarah Palins' Supporters as this article and several other on FreeRepublic show.

Her support is constant, deep, and wide.

This is the game-Changer!


19 posted on 09/02/2011 7:17:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Steelfish

That $1 billion figure was thrown out there to intimidate the opposition, IMO. If he raised $800M last time, I doubt he’ll reach $400M this time around. There just isn’t any enthusiasm for him like the 2008 race.


20 posted on 09/02/2011 7:20:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Saudis can always make up the difference.


21 posted on 09/02/2011 7:27:10 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: Steelfish

She has said that her campaign will be very grassroots. It will NOT be like anyone elses. Will she need money? Yeah. $1Bil? I don’t think so. Look at the press she’s getting this weekend. For free.


22 posted on 09/02/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I'm a 50-something disabled veteran with all kinds of health issues”


2ndDivisionVet,

Women like us Freeperettes love men like you. You served our country at a time when people like Jane Fonda (*%@) was serving the enemy. We will always remember the sacrifice you and others like you made. Hope your health improves soon.

23 posted on 09/02/2011 7:29:08 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: SoConPubbie

My assertion is that she is sheparding a flock which lines up with what she is doing quite well. She’s got a small army of folks like you to throw behind the candidate of her choice. She’s a kingmaker. I’ll be surprised if she’s willing to submit her family to anymore abuse. A Chistian woman would make the ego-sacrifice to protect her family unless she was sure she was called.


24 posted on 09/02/2011 7:32:07 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The longer she delays announcing her candidacy, the longer she keeps the ruling-class RINOs, state-controlled media, DemocRAT and Republican opponents, etc. in complete and total disarray.

Why should she give up her strategic advantage?

To make it "fair" for the RINOs and 'Rats?

Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.

ineluctable

25 posted on 09/02/2011 7:33:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I agree with your statement about the money.At the same time,I'm wondering how the left will try the race card on Sarah.They hate her so bad they could very well shoot themselves in the foot. Don't put it past Obozo to allow and maybe even foment race and class divisions to a degree we've yet seen.This is going to be an interesting year to say the least.
26 posted on 09/02/2011 7:38:00 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: WriteOn

I think she’s keeping both options open: running herself, and being kingmaker. Whatever her plans, I’ll bet only she and Todd know them.


27 posted on 09/02/2011 7:38:45 PM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: WriteOn
A Chistian woman would make the ego-sacrifice to protect her family unless she was sure she was called.

Oh drop the sanctimonious, false Christianity act.

Gods calls people to lead period, Men and Women, Married and Single and whom he calls he prepares for the calling.

Governor Palin is more prepared for the job of POTUS than any other candidate or potential candidate this election season.

Besides Cain, and to a lessor extant, Bachmann, she is the only movement conservative(She actually believes in Limited Government, as well as, fixing Illegal Immigration, Social Conservatism, etc) that is or may run.

No other candidate has been vetted like she has been and never will this election cycle.

Besides Bachmann (and she scares me sometimes) no other candidate, running or potential, is more of a fighter, in fact, she far surpasses every other candidate on this metric.

No other candidate commands the number of committed, loyal supporters that Governor Palin has in her corner. It is not even close.
28 posted on 09/02/2011 7:39:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: WriteOn
I think she’s playing tea party cheerleader and that’s it...

Actually, everything she has done in the past 3.5 years was geared toward crowning Rick Perry King.

Honest.

29 posted on 09/02/2011 7:41:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I personally won’t charge her one red cent for my vote. Anyone who does is just not cool.

On the other hand Obama couldn’t buy my vote with a billion dollars, I love my country too much.


30 posted on 09/02/2011 7:42:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run.--My vote is already bought, so move on)
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To: hwkbeer
They accused her of complicity in a multiple murder/attempted murder eight months ago. What won't they do?
31 posted on 09/02/2011 7:43:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Will she need money? Yeah. $1Bil? I don’t think so. Look at the press she’s getting this weekend. For free.

Which proves a point: As soon as she OFFICIALLY enters the race, the LSM, who so fervently seek out her every footstep, suddenly will say, "Sarah Palin? Who's Sarah Palin? And who cares where she is?"

Thus, her currently "strategery" seems pretty sound to me.

32 posted on 09/02/2011 7:43:44 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: SoConPubbie; Steelfish; 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin will need far less money than traditional candidates. One of the things I admire about Palin is her frugality when it comes to using other peoples’ money. That trait will be helpful when it comes to putting together a federal budget.


33 posted on 09/02/2011 7:45:03 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes,and I think she is ready for it this time.I trust her.She will get her message out,dispell the lies.


34 posted on 09/02/2011 7:46:58 PM PDT by hwkbeer (I will pursue my enemy and not stop till I consume him.)
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To: LaybackLenny
I still have to believe she will run. If she says tomorrow or in the next month or two that she was still undecided until the last minute...and then doesn't run, I'll always suspect that she was just stretching her decision out to enrich herself while toying with people who'd like to see her elected.

I believe she needs to quit her gig at Fox News before she runs for President...so quitting that will be a huge tell. We'll know her intentions within a few weeks, if not sooner.

35 posted on 09/02/2011 7:53:03 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: rovenstinez

A Palin/Cain ticket would be a tsunami.


36 posted on 09/02/2011 7:54:49 PM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: Diverdogz
Ya know, one of the MANY reasons I admire Sarah is...I trust her. Think about that a minute and then tell me how many other candidates you can HONESTLY say that about.

Some on this forum constantly play the "See, she's only in it for the money and fame" card. We're told she's MISLEADING us.

She's misled no one. She's been very forthright about the fact that she'll decide and announce her decision in her own time. PERIOD.

If she decides and announces she's not running, will I (and presumably a lot of other folks) be disappointed. You betcha. Will we throw ourselves off the nearest bridge. I, for one, will not. I'll continue to stand by her in whatever she pursues, knowing that she's talked this monumental decision over with, and listened to, her family and with God, and acted accordingly.

37 posted on 09/02/2011 8:16:38 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: faucetman
A little surprised to see them go after establishment Conservatives so strongly.

There is no such thing as an "establishment conservative".

38 posted on 09/02/2011 8:24:38 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: LaybackLenny

lol...even donna brazile seems to be cheering...albeit from a different sideline...lol

Palin is on point. There’s room for another maverick! RT @nytimespolitics The Caucus: Palin Says ‘There’s Room for More’ http://nyti.ms/mTuWE1


39 posted on 09/02/2011 8:30:39 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: tarotsailor

That would be great. but i also like
Palin/West
Palin/Rubio

I really can’t see any other combo’s.

considering how she’s so unconventional i wonder if she would announce her VP pick during the primaries. That wouls really change the game.


40 posted on 09/02/2011 8:31:14 PM PDT by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: Steelfish

48 million voted for McCain/Palin in 2008. Assuming none of them votes for Obama this time around and donates 10-20 dollars to Gov. Palin’s campaign, we arrive close to 1 B number you mentioned. That’s what needs to be done - to convince them that their country’s future is worth 20 bucks! Speaking of myself, I would stay on bread and water, if she runs, and will send the surplus to the campaign.


41 posted on 09/02/2011 8:41:33 PM PDT by exinnj
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Seriously, that’s just plain stupid.

Or did you forget the sarcasm tags?


42 posted on 09/02/2011 8:42:30 PM PDT by moonhawk (The only problem I have with burying Bin Laden at sea is that he was already dead.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree with you about grass-root enthusiasm. But when the attacks begin it will be withering and without the filter of the media, Sarah Palin will need a heap of dough to counter attack this and speak directly to the voters. We all know how she got mauled by Katie Couric and Co the last time around. The media will cohere around Obama and will circle the wagons to protect their guy at any costs.

Even before she get started we’ve seen the barrage of attacks on the Tea Party. To say her support is “constant, deep, and wide” is to blithely ignore the reality of politics once the campaign gets started. Independents will start to peel of like fresh paint on wood.


43 posted on 09/02/2011 8:51:03 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: moonhawk

I’m just tweaking the Perrywinkies.


44 posted on 09/02/2011 8:56:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: itsahoot

:-D


45 posted on 09/02/2011 9:08:51 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: LaybackLenny
Thus, her currently "strategery" seems pretty sound to me.

Me too. They dance to her tune.

46 posted on 09/02/2011 9:09:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Steelfish
Even before she get started we’ve seen the barrage of attacks on the Tea Party. To say her support is “constant, deep, and wide” is to blithely ignore the reality of politics once the campaign gets started. Independents will start to peel of like fresh paint on wood.

No, quite the opposite.

Reagan had to deal with the same difficulties, he overcame those difficulties by having the same "Never say die" attitude that Sarah has, talking over the media's head, and the leaning on the grass-roots.

The grass-roots will go into overtime to counter the media, to talk to the doubters, to get the truth out, to win the game.

They are the "ace-in-the-hole".

This is why the Left-wing fears her.

This is why the GOP elite fear her.

Both groups no that once she commits, they can't stop the tidal wave of excitement and resulting support she will get from unpaid volunteers, much the same as Reagan had on his side.

They also know they won't be able to control her because she has no loyalties to any Party machine. Her loyalties are to the American People, and to conservative constitutional limited government. Perry especially, can not lay claim to the same characteristics or history, Sarah can.

Perry comes nowhere near in his ability to excite the base, neither does Cain or Bachmann. Myth doesn't even register.
47 posted on 09/02/2011 9:17:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

allrighty, then.... :-)


48 posted on 09/02/2011 9:27:30 PM PDT by moonhawk (The only problem I have with burying Bin Laden at sea is that he was already dead.)
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To: Steelfish

There have been elections in this nation that no matter how much money a candidate collected could not buy the election.

Obama is an empty suit. Millions are unemployed and the First Lady goes on expensive vacations.

So, he has big bucks. So what!


49 posted on 09/02/2011 10:06:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Steelfish

[But before that I want to know whether she could raise the $1B dough and win.]

I don’t think she has to raise as much as the others. I bet half the country doesn’t know who Perry or Romney are - everyone knows who Sarah is (love her or hate her). The Twitter/facebook army she has is a huge advantage this time around. And Palin plays te media like lapdogs. And remember how much Romney was spending per vote in Iowa in 2008? It was obscene and didn’t do squat.
I think Sarah has different rules.


50 posted on 09/02/2011 10:42:35 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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