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Obama: The conservative in 2012 (He's serious!)
The Washington Post ^ | December 25, 2011 | E.J. Dionne, Jr.

Posted on 12/25/2011 8:16:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ClearCase_guy

The call to take Bin Laden down was made by Clinton and Panetta. Obama was a disinterested observer.


21 posted on 12/25/2011 9:59:07 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(He's serious!)

No, he's E.J. Dionne, creating fresh manure for the ComPost.

22 posted on 12/25/2011 10:04:35 PM PST by TChad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a sense, the author is right. Obama is “conservative” in one sense of that word. He wants to keep the system the way it is now, with the same ruling class continuing to rule and expand its writ in the same way it has done since the 1930’s. He is at the heart of the ruling conventional wisdom and wants to conserve the power of the class that imposes that conventional wisdom.

In the sense “conservative” is used on this FR, he is of course the anti-christ. But modern conservatives are actually revolutionaries. They want to end the beast created by progressives since the 30’s. So maybe conservative is the wrong word for us. There’s not much point in trying to conserve something that, for the most part, no longer exists.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 1:26:28 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: rabscuttle385; 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; Impy

” the average self-interested American taxpayer, seeking to minimize taxes and fees paid while maximizing benefits obtained from the government (”getting the most bang for the buck,” is more than willing to elect officials who add debt - lots of debt - to the mix. In short, the complexity of government has created the illusion that a free lunch - or as my economist friends might put it, both guns and butter at the same time - is in fact possible (while in reality, it’s not). “

“Land of the spree, and home of the knave...”

Groucho Marx


24 posted on 12/26/2011 4:45:58 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; 2ndDivisionVet; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; ...
I noticed a number of years ago that POTUS races are :
1) Popularity contests
2) A contest as to who will/can promise the most free goodies with a straight face

And Obama is definitely experienced at #2 : “You mean I can get Social Security when I retire without paying the taxes for it if I just vote for Obama? And only the rich will have to pay the taxes if he is made King? And my free college at the taxpayers expense is their investment not just me getting welfare?

I came across this last night : The US Economy is Doomed

25 posted on 12/26/2011 5:59:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is conserving the welfare state, which is issue #1 through 10 with these MSM jokers.


26 posted on 12/26/2011 6:01:20 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: sickoflibs
'the American people have been charlie sheened'...

in a nutshell...

27 posted on 12/26/2011 6:46:07 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama will thus be the conservative in 2012, in the truest sense of that word.

I knew that it would be a matter of time before the Liberals co-opt the term "conservative". If they cannot take the term they will neutralize the term with confusing and contradictory definitions.

28 posted on 12/26/2011 7:15:37 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama should run with this. His new campaign slogan can be something like the following:

“No change. No hope. 4 more years!”


29 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:18 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Who’s the first quote from?


30 posted on 12/27/2011 3:56:42 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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