Posted on 01/04/2012 11:56:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
If Rick Perry was a legitimate conservative (which I always warned he was not) he would have dropped out of the campaign today and endorsed Rick Santorum, Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich. Yet "Pay-for-Play" Perry stays in, and heads for South Carolina. So what's the deal?
The big winner of Perry staying in, by far, is Mitt Romney. The big loser is the conservative movement and the candidates who appeal to that movement. Keeping in mind my long-held view that Perry is not conservative, just a "pay-for-play" guy, what is in it for Perry?
1. Perhaps Romney offered Perry a position in his administration, such as undersecretary of Agriculture.
2. Perhaps Romney offered Perry a diplomatic post suited to his talents, such as United States Ambassador to Bolivia.
3. Perhaps Perry spent more of his money than we realize, and Romney offered to go to his 1 percent wealthy fundraisers and raise for Perry a little more dough to sweeten the pie.
Who knows? I would suggest that by staying in and helping Romney, and hurting Santorum and Gingrich, Perry is to the conservative movement what Benedict Arnold was to the colonists. Or, since Rick Perry likes analogies from the Bible, perhaps a gentleman whose first name begins with "J" and ends with "-udas" fairly describes what Perry is doing to the real conservatives today.
That was a general prayer, not specifically directed at you. I know I’ve seen you as a Perry supporter.
THIS JUST IN. Now we know how Perry keeps getting elected governor. The buzz is if you’re not backing Perry for gov, you’re for Mickey Mouse. LOL.
So according to the Space Cadets: “If you are not for Perry for president, that means you are for Obama.”
Iowans better get those Obama bumper stickers before they run out.
You also may want to direct your umbrage at the OP for posting an artcle that embodies what you so revile.
AND LOOK at the follow up posts!
This week Bachmann pulls out. Next week may be Perry's turn. He wants his own moment -- doesn't want it to get swallowed up by hers.
Or possibly Perry is waiting to see if Newt or Rick will self-destruct or waiting to see who'll make him a deal.
Perry's not going to be a factor in New Hampshire. He won't take votes away from any potential winner there.
I'm thinking Rick Perry will quit after NH if polls show him behind in SC and FL or the money dries up.
I’m thinking Rick Perry will quit after NH if polls show him behind in SC and FL or the money dries up.
Have You been at this political prognostication business for a long time?
It doesn't work for me. As a Perry supporter, I think it stacks the deck against him. He's not competing in NH and he finished below Newt and Santorum in Iowa. He could win SC outright and still not beat them in your 3 Primary Average.
Here's my plan:
I'll support the top two finishers coming out of SC that aren't Romney or Paul. The rest should drop out.
Today's polls show Perry at 0-6% in the next three primary states (about 1% NH, 4% FL, 5% SC).
How long do you think he'll hold out if that doesn't change?
Santorum's going to get a bump and that puts Perry further behind in those states.
I have no idea what Perry will do. But as best as I can tell he’s not even campaigning in NH per se outside of the two upcoming debates. From what I read it seems he will concentrate on SC and isn’t concerned with the outcome in NH.
Take care and have a great 2012.
I’m looking at it this way, smooth. Iowa, New Hampshire, and S Carolina are samples of different types of conservatives: region, religion, culture, etc. The best candidate is the one who can do best among all types, so that’s why I’ve decided the average of the 1st 3 among the top 3 is the route I will choose.
Perry’s decision to forego New Hampshire is his own and must be based on some sense that he has little appeal to those conservatives.
On the other hand, he must believe he’ll appeal extremely well in S. Carolina since he’s betting all his chips there. It is clearly his last stand in any case.
Here’s the decider: Go to this page for an interactive electoral college map. Play with changing colors from blue to red under the 2012 electoral configuration after acknowledging that there are some regions that simply aren’t going to go republican: west coast, northeast and most of great lakes/rustbelt states.
Now try to make it to 270 electoral votes without adding one large or 2 small greatlakes/rustbelt states.
Having said that, the way you do it is unite behind the VERY FIRST CONSERVATIVE TO GET A BASE HIT AGAINST THAT ACE PITCHER, MITT ROMNEY.
I had always assumed this would be Herman Cain. Anyone familiar with me here on FR knows the die hard support I had for Herman. As fate (and liberal mass media teamed with RINO intrigue) would have it, that was not to be.
Now it turns out that not only has Rick Santorum gotten a base hit, he has actually gotten a DOUBLE in Iowa, now standing on second base considering he was outspent by Willard nearly 30 to 1 and still polled within 8 votes.
That says something.
We now need to quickly, and I mean very, very, very quickly, coalesce behind that leading conservative and, well, in this case, it is ***RICK SANTORUM***. Count me in not to fracture this Conservative alliance movement to really give it to both the RINOs and the liberal MSM hell bent for leather to coronate Romney, but to officially support Rick Santorum here as well as now go on to contribute some bucks to get more ads up in NH and SC against Bishop Romney and the Hell-on-Earth known as the Obama Administration.
LOL! I’ll leave all that prognostication stuff to you, Chappy.
I’m concentrating on South Carolina for now, the “big picture” will have to wait!
It's up to individual candidates to drop out or not. I don't think South Carolina will necessarily be the make or break state, but I could most assuredly be wrong.
IOW, it's a wait and see, for me. Just pray that Romney isn't able to sneak by with a win.
please check out the interactive electoral map link at post #130
Play with it a bit with the 2012 electoral map and the 2008 results.
clicking on a state changes its color and the tally
Hey, that’s a fun link. My map has Perry carrying every state but Hawaii! :o)
http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=eRa
I heard he’s taking hula lessons and coming up with a Tex/Pinapple Pig Roast Recipe.
I am aware, and I am glad he did it. But it was sybolic with no teeth behind it.
I WANT the guy to go hardcore with every ounce of his Governor’s authority and assert Texas’ 10th amendment rights. He can and should. But he isn’t. That’s the core of my problem. There are a million things that he could do, all of them ‘painful’ to say “ENOUGH!”
Picture A Washington or a Reagan in his position. Would they stop at a meaningless letter with no teeth to it?
I wish they ALL would.
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!
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