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Posted on 01/10/2012 10:50:31 AM PST by Graewoulf
Ron Paul is getting traction because the GOP has ignored the people. The Tea Party spoke very clearly and consistently and the GOP establishment scoffed at it all - no different than Pelosi or Reid did.
Just ask any elected Tea Party candidate Boehner and McConnell have systematically shut them down.
Just look at the candidates we have to choose from ALL OF THEM ARE BIG GOVERNMENT with the exception of Rick Perry and Ron Paul.
If the GOP establishment had actually put forth a candidate who was the best for this country (not slightly better than Obama) and not what was best for their dirty, establishment cabal this primary season would be completely different.
Look at the insanity now with Gingrich - what a loon!!! Preaching the occupy mantra against Romney and we have people here on FR that actually agree with Gingrich about Bain capital - too bad Gingrich couldn’t attack Romney on healthcare - oh yeah he can’t because he supported individual mandate for two decades!!!
What a farce! We are getting screwed once again...we never learn. Last time we had the idiot McCain - really that was the best Conservative for the job?
For the record I have thrown my support behind Santorum, even though he has big government tendencies he seems to be the only candidate I can’t catch in a lie - amazing actually.
If you want to defeat Romney then Gingrich, Perry and Ron Paul should get together and throw their support behind Rick Santorum and unveil a new contract for America that they really mean and America needs. All Gingrich is doing now is going to ensure Obama gets re-elected!
They lived in the real world of the late 18th and early 19th Century and responded accordingly. If they were here today they would understand new threats and new realities of our time and act in the best interest of our nation.
Paul and his brood think it's still 1789, and even in that time they would still be idiots...
“Paul and his brood think it’s still 1789, and even in that time they would still be idiots...”
Hmm, applying Paul’s policies, the revolution could have never taken place since we had to borrow $$$ to conduct it, but if it did, how would have American History been changed if Paul supporters had been in charge? In no order:
1) they would have been against the Louisiana Purchase because the Constitution was silent on the issue (this actually happened).
2) ok with British and French fort building in the Great Lakes region
3) US agression in Florida against the Spanish MUST stop!
4) They would disavow the Texas rebels and refuse to support them because we cannot interfere in the affairs of other countries.
5) tell impressed sailors that they were on their own and, thus, avoid the unfortunite War of 1812 - the great yankee merchant and whaling fleets would never exist.
6) cede the Oregon territory to Britian - After all, the US fought 2 illegal wars against the British, we must understand why they hate us
7) Restrain American settlers from entering Spanish territory to the west - manifest destiny is suppressed
8) California territory stays Mexican
9) Disavow the abolitionist movement since the constitution provides for slavery
10) Virginia, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, & Georgia secceed because the constitution is silent on secession. The union that never grew much beyond 13 colonies is left with 9 states, maybe 10.
Anyway, that is my list. I stayed away from WWI and WWII.
” - - - Ron Paul is getting traction because the GOP has ignored the people. “
Perhaps that is why Paul did so well in New Hampshire tonight?
If so, do you think that the GOP will adjust to, or continue to ignore Paul?
I wish a candidate would truly endorse and support cutting government.
Just look at the elections since Reagan...freaking disaster across the board.
Paul wants Kucinich
Kucinich wants Paul
They LOVE each other.
See for yourself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4DRZP9JgBA
Wrong! You need to read up on your history.
You are completely delusional if you believe the found fathers were about Preemptive war abroad.
Good posts.
B.S.
He likes the Founding Fathers and the U.S. Constitution.
Jefferson wanted to protect cargo ships from attack by Pirates. Thus, the Navy. Thomas Jefferson did not want a Navy to start Preemptive wars with other countries.
You want to start wars kind like Nazi Germany to stop them and convert them, but that’s not what our founding fathers envisioned.
First of all, he said "to independents sick to death of the GOP..." Are you denying that independents who are sick of the GOP like Ron Paul?
Secondly, the majority of this country are tired of the wars. (read it and weep.) and all the BS going on in politics. So, RP does appeal to many people who are sick of both the GOP AND the Dems, because there really is little difference, especially on the important issues that are slowly destroying our nation. I had to reply because I found it funny that (based on your above post) you seem to think that *your* position is the mainstream one. Sorry, but it just isn't. On FR it is, yes. I'll give you that. But not in the nation at large.
Its not the age of sail, its not 1789 and even in the early days of this nation the founders took measures to protect America regardless of location.
Ron Paul would have been on British TV voicing opposition to the early nation opposing Britain because we were provoking them.
They sure are out in force. Admins slowly whacking them...
I may be delusional but at least I am not a paulbot.
I’ll tell you what when Paul wins anything , anything at all (barely even wins his own district) then you can tell me how “mass appeal” he is.
Ok, lets do this. You actually look up Paul’s 30 years history: what he has done, said and written not what other people have said he has done, said or written then we will talk. Paul is not who you think he is.
Oh, yea and read up on what the founder DID, not their musings. If you think we (USA) was not involved when they believed our interested would be served - ha!
Now that Iowa and New Hampshire have proven Willy Rom-Rom RINO and Ron Paul to be the two top vote getters in the Republican Party, do you think that Romney will choose Paul to be his Veep?
BTW, “The Vulture” and “The Doctor” might be just what we need to rescue America from its financial death spiral!
Are you joking? The very question is delusional. Even if Paul were a rational human being, a VP is chosen to possibly carry the next eight years....the man is old now.
” - - - a VP is chosen to possibly carry the next eight years....the man is old now.”
Konrad Adenauer in post WW2 West Germany did very well as their chancellor from 1949 to 1963. He was 87 when he retired and lived another 4 years.
Ron Paul is a medical doctor, in good health, and realistic about the LONG length of time required to downsize the Medical Entitlements of Medicare, Medicaid, and the illegal Obama”Care.”
The medical doctor as Veep could in just ONE year set up the blueprint to downsize the medical entitlements, and still have 3 years to ram it down the libs throats. ( Say “AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,” libs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The odds are that the libs, (in “both” parties), will rally in 2016, and mount a massive reaction Campaign against President Willy Rom-Rom RINO.
But if Willy holds up his end of the “Vulture” bargain, and picks the bones clean on ALL the rotting crops in THE ENTITLEMENT PLANTATION, then he may be able to stay in office for a full eight years. Otherwise, the RINOs will be served Willy-Rom toast, and the cancer of Obamanation will again pollute our Republic.
BTW, Ron Paul would probably step down in 2016 and allow his son Rand to replace him as Veep AND continue thankless, ( except by us), task of keeping BIG Government RINO Romney on the Conservative side of the GOP Establishment RINOland. A DAILY “check and balance” system on BIG Government Willy Rom-Rom RINO. (Sort of a “Paul” cast over the flaming-lib tendencies of Willy Rom, the “Massachusettes Moderate.”)
BTW, BTW, REALITY knows no loyalty. Paul is the best AVAILABLE reality check to Willy Rom. So suck it up FReepers, and make the best of the cards that are being dealt, and DOWNSIZE the US Federal Government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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