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LaTourette: Blame Tea Party “chuckleheads,” not Boehner’s leadership
Hot Air ^ | 12-21-2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:44 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

..... (snip)

That’s not to say that LaTourette doesn’t have a genuine beef, either. Steve Doocy defends the Tea Party opposition to Plan B as a response to Boehner abandoning the key principle of not raising taxes. Unfortunately, that doesn’t make much sense as a defense. At some point, we either cut a deal before the fiscal cliff raises everyone’s taxes, or go off the fiscal cliff and raise everyone’s taxes, or cut the deal after raising everyone’s taxes temporarily. .... And if either of the latter two outcomes happen, then Barack Obama will be able to claim credit for a massive middle-class tax cut after the fact, and the media will be more than happy to help build that narrative.

Republicans lost the presidential race and lost ground in the Senate, which means that they’re not going to be able to force a deal that doesn’t include some kind of tax hikes now. Even the “revenue” that Boehner put on the table in his previous offers means tax increases — just not rate increases, a point on which Obama ran and won his second term as President. That is what is meant by “elections have consequences.” Apparently, the implications of the loss in November still haven’t sunk in with some in the House GOP.

Still, the “chuckleheads” to whom LaTourette refers got elected to their offices the same way Boehner and LaTourette did, and have as much claim to a mandate within their own districts. It’s the job of effective leadership to craft strategies that include enough of the caucus to bring them along — and to time punishment so that it doesn’t damage the key strategies in high-stakes negotiations. .....

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My purpose of linking to this article is not to trash LaTourette, but you are welcome to comment on his stand. What I have troubles is with Ed Morrissey's 'moderate conservative' stand for a while.

Besides being Catholic and anti-abortion, what makes Ed Mirrissey a conservative, and a 'prominent conservative pundit' at that in invited speakership in conservative conferences, occassional journal publishings, and conservative blog?

With 'conservative analysis' like this example (and the recent advise to GOP on Illegal Amnesty), of course GOP advisors/strategists can go on telling the base to gfthemselves.

1 posted on 12/22/2012 7:16:50 AM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot
I get sick of commentators. I wish they would all get real jobs. How do you negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate? Maybe Morrissey, the genius that he is, should explain why it is a good idea for the GOP to keep negotiating against itself when it is obvious that Obama wants to go over the cliff.

Here is a plan of action. Put a plan together that House Republicans can vote for. In other words, one that cuts spending and doesn't raise taxes and pass it in the House. Then go home. After that, let the Senate Democrats and Obama deal with the mess they've created. For starters, let the Senate Democrats pass a plan. Right now this is a farce because I don't believe the Senate Democrats even have a plan, much less one they've voted on.

2 posted on 12/22/2012 7:27:15 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Sir Napsalot

How about some real leadership that ends continuing resolutions and passes a budget that CUTS spending. Forget the whitehouse going along with the budget. All spending originates in the house. Cutting the endless flow of credit for money we do not have is good leadership.

I do not want my taxes to go up, but today the republicans fix it with a million, tomorrow it 1/2 million, in a few years its on everyone. Take the tax rate to75% on millionaires won’t fix anything. It just makes ignorant voters think they are doing something!!!!!!

Real leaders do not use illusions. They don’t need them.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 7:32:31 AM PST by nomobs
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To: Sir Napsalot

HotAir.com has been “squishy” bordering on RINO since Michelle Malkin sold the site. “Allahpundit” is the worst, routinely undermining conservative talking points while pretending to be objective. I read them less and less each month.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 7:37:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: Sir Napsalot
Read my lips, "No new taxes." This entire discussion on the "fiscal cliff" centers around revenue and raising taxes. Spending cuts are not linked. Obama is asking for increased spending aka investments, and now we have a pork filled $60 billion Sandy bill. The $60 billion is 75% of what the tax on the "rich" would realize annually, i.e., $84 billion,

Boehner has done a terrible job of explaining how what Obama proposes would hurt small businesses. If the Reps agree to increase taxes, then it will divide and destroy the GOP, which is why Obama is pressing the tax hike as non-negoitable. It has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with increasing revenue.

5 posted on 12/22/2012 7:38:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: nomobs

Here here!


6 posted on 12/22/2012 7:42:30 AM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: nomobs; vbmoneyspender

The trouble with the “Big Tent” type is that when do they realize their strategy does not work, has not been working? [Please do not quote Reagan to me, some backbones and principles are missing nowadays.]

Ed Morrissey wrote “Apparently, the implications of the loss in November still haven’t sunk in with some (implying chuckleheads) in the House GOP.”

Keep this up, a permanent divorce is coming. GOP as it exists now is useless.


7 posted on 12/22/2012 7:43:53 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Liberalism == LaTourette’s Syndrome


8 posted on 12/22/2012 7:49:58 AM PST by mikrofon (Knee-JERK Reactionary)
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To: vbmoneyspender
In other words, one that cuts spending and doesn't raise taxes and pass it in the House.
I don't have a problem with this plan, but I do have a problem with the proposed execution. Most of the spending cut proposals I've seen have the appearance of being crafted with an overused chainsaw in "big bill" chunks. That way lies madness.

What is needed is hundreds of small, targeted bills, directed at specific programs that have outlived their usefulness. They need to include defense programs as well as social programs. They need to whittle away at bloated bureaucracies, not slash and burn in big swaths.

Already mentioned earlier today, but it bears repeating: the House needs to rein back the regulatory agencies from expensive regulations that have low or negative return on the peoples' investment. We all complain about the EPA's high-priced "solutions" to problems it perceives; the House needs to tell the EPA "no." It isn't just the tax load that is hurting this country.

We have gotten where we are through a death of a thousand small bills. The right way to deal with this is to pass a thousand small bills of correction.

How about this? Take the United States Code (maybe starting with Title 26, the Tax code) and go through it page by page. Take out sentences, paragraphs, entire sections of statute that are out of date. If there is a benefit for a small group that doesn't make sense or is a political plum, either take it out or make the benefit apply to everyone equally. Root out that special-interest law that holds us back. Things that are better handled by the States, the counties, the towns, the villages, the hamlets, remove them from Federal law.

I'm not talking "tax reform", I'm talking about all-the-law reform. Taken a page at time, we can get rid of the waste and complexities that sap the life out of our economy, our businesses, our families.

Then it's time to tackle the Code of Federal Regulations...

9 posted on 12/22/2012 7:50:47 AM PST by asinclair (B*llshit is a renewable resource.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Steve LaTourette had been ineffective ever since riding into the House of Reps on the Kirtland Massacre/Jeffrey Lundgren scandal.

His biggest contribution to the cause was his initial defeat of the Democrat blockhead he replaced.

A "moderate" Republican, he did not even support his fellow Republicans in local, county and statewide races in Lake County and Ohio.

He was not a leader of his party, and mainly just occupied the seat.

He allowed D.C. to destroy his marriage when he threw over his wife for a lobbyist. He told his wife of his infidelity in a phone call.

He was a schmuck, and we are better off without him.

10 posted on 12/22/2012 7:51:24 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (If this be treason, make the most of it. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I heard him sub for Hugh Hewitt last week and, like Hewitt, he didn't seem to understand that “assault weapons” are not machine guns. He seemed willing to “compromise” on 2A in this area.

Disappointing.

11 posted on 12/22/2012 7:54:41 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Oh no! We got called "chuckleheads" by LaTourette! So that now makes me a racist, homophobe, tea-bagger, religious kook, redneck, gun-nut, birther, clinger, islamaphobe, chucklehead." Oh my gosh, did I forget anything? hehehehe
12 posted on 12/22/2012 7:54:53 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sir Napsalot. Ed Morrissey:
...Steve Doocy defends the Tea Party opposition to Plan B as a response to Boehner abandoning the key principle of not raising taxes. Unfortunately, that doesn't make much sense as a defense. At some point, we either cut a deal before the fiscal cliff raises everyone's taxes, or go off the fiscal cliff and raise everyone's taxes, or cut the deal after raising everyone's taxes temporarily. .... And if either of the latter two outcomes happen, then Barack Obama will be able to claim credit for a massive middle-class tax cut after the fact, and the media will be more than happy to help build that narrative. Republicans lost the presidential race and lost ground in the Senate, which means that they're not going to be able to force a deal that doesn't include some kind of tax hikes now. Even the "revenue" that Boehner put on the table in his previous offers means tax increases -- just not rate increases... "elections have consequences." Apparently, the implications of the loss in November still haven't sunk in with some in the House GOP.
Say, have you got the time? Partisan Media Shills: and more sidebars:
13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:56:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

At least this Rino won’t be around next year.


14 posted on 12/22/2012 8:07:32 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Sir Napsalot

Shame they (The TEA Party members) don’t get some more face-time on the tube/airwaves. I’d love to hear them break it down as thus:

Exactly what should be compromised when the President and the Dems want to economically enslave the taxpayers of this country? Because, every $$ of this dept has to be repaid, most likely by your children and/or grandchildren. So tell me, how much of their lives are theirs and how much is the gov’t?

Course, that’ll never happen (the NAACP would be all over that statement), but DAMN, would it get them talking about things finally!?


15 posted on 12/22/2012 8:41:33 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: Sir Napsalot

Latoilette, stuff it loser. I will just forget that you once “represented” me in Congress.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 8:43:20 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: Sir Napsalot

The GOPe is delusional and need to resign and check into rehab as soon as possible.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 9:02:24 AM PST by nomobs
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Tea Party is the only reason why Bonehead is the Speaker in the first place instead of Pelosi.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 10:35:18 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

La Tourette spews, unexpectently. Boner failed to lead. Being a dictator only works for Dear Reader (when Boner is the tounge tied non-Speaker).


19 posted on 12/22/2012 12:00:05 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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